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Brian Peterson (63.149.51.179)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm planning on brewing this weekend. The plan is to split the batch in half and pitch the first half with WLP001 and the second half with WLP840. Tenative recipe is 15# 2 roww, 1# wheat, 1# 60L Crystal, 1# 80L Crystal, and ~.25# Bisquit. I plann to bitter with 2oz homegrown Chinook (a lot of the lupin has fallen off and is collected in the bottom of the bag. 1oz centennial at 15min. Dry hop with 1 oz centennial. I plan to make a 7 gallon batch. Any potential problems? Comments?

Thanks,
Brian
 

Bill Tobler (216.62.156.15)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like a great idea to me. What temperatures are you going to ferment at? The WLP001 likes 68-73 while the WLP840 likes 50-55. I would be interested to here the results of the test. I'm guessing the beers will be very similar. The larger will probably be a little cleaner and brighter. It would depend on the conditioning faze of the Ale. I wouldn't cold condition the Ale, so you can taste the difference in how the yeast works. Do you have the equiptment to do a proper larger? Go for it!!

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Bill Tobler
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JOHN K. LEE (206.66.239.111)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like an interesting experiment IMO, Brian. I myself would like to try that sometime. It be pretty cool to taste each side by side knowing it's the same beer...but different! I'd have to buy a boil kettle big enough to do 10 gal batches though. It seems like a lot of work for only 2.5 gallons of each. Good luck and good brewin'.
-J.K.L.
 

aquavitae (134.84.195.46)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I did this recently with using the california ale (WLP051) and Czech Budejovice Lager (WLP802) on a split batch of Denny's Rye IPA. I found it quite informative (be sure and taste throughout the fermentation).Right from the start the lager smoothed out the hops compared to the ale yeast. Unfortunatly the ale is gone but the lager still lagering. I think I'm going to skip the dry hopping to better assess the lagering effects. I have little dry hopping experience but 1oz centennial seems like a lot.
 

Steve Ruch (207.101.210.199)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a fairly easy way to get 2 different beers from 1 batch. I've done it a couple of times, but with 2 different ale yeasts.
Go for it!
 

Doug Pescatore (141.232.1.10)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've brewed two of the more popular recipe here as both ale and lagers. I did Denny's RyePA both ways, but liked the ale better. And Skots B-52 was much better as a lager than an ale IMHO.

-Doug
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aquavitae, it's supposed to be 1 oz. Columbus for dry hoppng the Rye IPA, anyway!
 

Connie (12.77.142.181)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

DC,
Is that one ounce split between the two carboys?
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nope, an oz. per 5 gal. When I made the batch I took to Hop Madness last year, I used 2 oz. per 5 gal. YUMMY!
 

aquavitae (134.84.195.46)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The question is whether 1 oz of Cenntenial (as proposed by Brian) would be appropriate for a lagered version.
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

DOH! I guess I should actually read the questions, huh?
 

Connie (12.77.144.171)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

DC,
You answered my question correctly. I did want to know if you recommended one ounce of Columbus hops split between two carboys or one ounce per five gallon carboy.
Thanks,
Connie

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