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gregory gettman (209.66.128.130)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I made a BW last weekend that was split into two buckets 3 gals each. Both used big starters about 1.5 gal. One was 013 Wlp London strain which I have never used before?

The other is 1335 wy, that I have used a couple of times. This strain though was cultured up from a loop into a flask @ 50 ml, steped to 200 ml and then pitched onto the 1.5 gal starter.

Now in my experience, Home grown yeast does much better than pitchable tubes at fermentation. It starts sooner, finishes more completely in less time.

This barley wine though is acting strange? After a few days and a little temp shifting the fermenters are sitting in a 60-64F area. Which is colder than I would like but ok.

Now on to the point (finally) After taking a peek in each bucket the 1335 is moving slowly with almost no krausen anymore. While the london in a 6 gallon bucket has a 2 gal head!!! Wow, Is it always high with this strain? And conversly why would the head of the 1335 drop so quick?

It really does'nt matter either way I can always dump the 1335 on the london cake, if it falls short of the hoped for FG. But then I have a 3rd strain planed to dry out the beer at secondary.

Oh the BW started @ 110!!!! :)
Too bad I gotta wait a year to drink it........
 

Belly Buster Bob (131.137.245.199)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't have an answer for you but I gotta try one of these BW. Can anyone give me a flavour description?
 

Marc Rehfuss (129.130.115.10)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

1335 Brit II is a versatile strain, and is easily the "cleanest" of the Brit strains. It does, however, throw a rather large krauzen when fermented any higher that 65 deg, in my experience. I used to use it a lot. One aspect about this strain I like is that when it's done, it drops VERY clear quickly and will stick to the bottom of the carboy or bottle like glue. In flavor profile it's similar to 1272, although 1335 finishes drier and is much more flocculant. Anyway, I don't think you'll need to pitch anymore yeast on the 1335 BW, although I have never used it on a high grav brew. Check the FG and see. 1335 is a fine, versatile, underrated strain, IMO. I'd wager your BW will be quite a tasty brew. Marc
 

Jim Keaveney (152.163.252.67)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"1335 is a fine, versatile, underrated strain, IMO"

mine too. it is rarely recommended for a particular beer, but it is works well with so many brews. i make all sorts of ales and stouts with this strain - a steady performer.
 

gregory gettman (67.75.104.96)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I belive it's the new castle strain? But it is defenetly one of my favorites.

BBB your a dirty troll........:^)

I don't know what I'm worried about I just expected more foam from the 1335 it seems slow this time, maybe I cultured up a mutant?

The 013 is out of control though and will be used this summer for a pale ale.
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.73.66)
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gregory, I don't understand your comment. I would really like to try a BW and have absolutely no idea how they taste
 

gregory gettman (209.66.128.130)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry I thought you were joke'in. Are you able to get any up there in your neck of the woods?

I would recommend:

Fuller's Vintage Ale or their Golden Pride

Gale's Prize Old Ale or Thomas Hardy's Ale

Bass No 1 It's not made anymore except in small batches If you find this one Let me know.

There are many american barley wines None are really good in MO. Except big foot But only if it's at least 1 year old.
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.105.17)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm in buttf*** Nova Scotia and as far as I know there aint not no Barley wine in the liquor store. Maybe I'll look next time I'm in Halifax.
No offence taken, the trolls are here and you must keep them at bay
 

Walt Fischer (24.221.196.114)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey BBB...
Try looking for Serria Nevada's "Bigfoot" BW...

Walt
 

Dave Witt (172.148.134.26)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

bbb,

In addition to the ones that Greg mentions, look for Young's Old Nick as well. But its at the weak end of the spectrum. Most of the English versions don't say "barleywine" on the label, at least not in large print.
 

Paul Hayslett (64.252.40.222)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB,

Don't disillusion me! "All About Beer" magazine is sponsoring a cruise (an extended, watery pubcrawl) in September which will stop in Halifax and Sydney. I'm trying to convince my wife that this would be a great way to spend our vacation time and money. She's already dubious, so the last thing I need is you saying that you can't get good beer there!

By the way, for barleywines, I like Brooklyn's Monster Ale and Rogue's Old Crustacean.
 

Belly Buster Bob (131.137.245.198)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

on the contrary Paul....Halifax is an incredible place to visit/drink. They have over 200 pubs in 4 sq blocks. I just happen to live in the middle of the Bible belt (no offence). I'll look for some of those next trip to Halifax. Thanks folks
Gregory...sory for the hijack
 

chumley (199.92.192.126)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

>>I just happen to live in the middle of the Bible belt

Bible Belt? I thought that ran from Mississippi to the Carolinas. You, BBB, live in the freakin' tundra. Penguins, caribou and polar bears are unlikely to be purveyors of barley wine.
 

gregory gettman (67.75.97.205)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB it was my thread to mangle anyway.....

Paul is right THe monster is a good BW I stand corrected, though I would argue about rogue's!

Chumley I'm still laughing that was hilarious.....

The long and short of it is this, I don't think the 1335 performed as well as the 013? I can't figure out why since I grew the 1335 up from almost nothing? I would have guessed it would do better not only because it was a fresher generation of yeast but also it's a higher attuator. OH well I guess it will have to wait untill I check gravitys............
 

Jim Keaveney (205.188.208.75)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ya never know until you check. one could seem to be doing more than the other but when you take the reading...

p.s. isnt gales an old ale as opposed to a bw?
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.113.117)
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I feel a name for my future Barley Wine comin on....thanks for that Chumley
 

Marlon Lang (68.218.234.90)
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

White Labs version of 1335?
 

gregory gettman (209.66.128.130)
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No wyeast.......1335

White labs......013

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