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Belly Buster Bob (142.177.7.82)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm trying to find the Quick Disc. you guys use on the United Plastics site but am having no luck. Can someone point me in the right direction?
thanks
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.7.82)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

found them....man!!!are they expensive!!
 

Jared Cook (24.1.247.22)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes they are BBB. There are some cheaper ones for 3/8" hose, but I use 1/2". I'm using cheap brass garden hose QD's and other brass fittings. Time will tell if they hold up, but I haven't had any leaks yet. Oh, and brass fittings can get REALLY HOT when recirculating wort.
 

RJ Testerman (208.31.88.53)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB,

I bought them and they are worth every penny, you will use them all.

http://hbd.org/discus/messages/15516/18815.html?1068585628

RJ
 

Mike Kessenich (165.189.92.23)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Once you buy these (and you should), I've found the best way to use them is to put 6 females on both ends of 3 different length hoses and males on everything else. This way you can use any hose between any 2 pieces of equipment.
 

Walt Fischer (24.221.196.114)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup.. they aint cheap, dang it..;>
I started out using brass hose ones from homedep0, and they sucked.. leaking all the time...
I put up with it for about a year, then finally broke down and got the ones from usplastics....
While I think they are way too expensive, they do work awesome...

I did what Mike did... Females on all the hose endings, and males on all the equipment..

Walt
Lama Brewery
 

Mike Kessenich (165.189.92.23)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, yeah I forgot to mention that Obviously the hose connections are barbed and most of the equipment connections are 1/2 male NPT.
 

Andrew T. Deutsch (67.41.112.236)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have yet to break open the wallet and buy the poly-whatever ones but my research tells me not to wast money on the brass ones. For those of you thinking about it but not ready yet, a barbed fitting with a stainless clamp works just fine (just a bit of a pain to put on and take off) and is very cheap.
 

Tom Gardner (162.119.240.100)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For sharing one pump among my 3 converted kegs (HLT, MT, BK) having the QD's are indispensable. In three years I have only banged up one (dropped the recirc hose). As above, I use the female-hose barb on the pump hose, and male-male NPT on the kettles and CFC. Brew on, Tom
 

Henry Raynor (130.76.32.144)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Huh? I'm getting gender confused. I have males on all my hoses and females on my pump and boil kettle. I have barb fittings on my MT and HLT. Most of my hoses just have a fitting on one end and the other goes to the barb with a hose clamp. The females are more expensive than the males (also true for people unless the male is a homebrewer or fisherman) which is why my system is configured this way.
They are nice and sturdy and don't leak. I do need to cut out the cross inside the male fitting, though - it sometimes catches some hops.
 

Walt Fischer (24.221.196.114)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

either way would work Henry...
I just like to be able to grab the hose with the female on it, push the button, and slap it onto any "male" equip i have...
So all my females are barbed onto the hoses, and the males 1/2 NPT into the equipment...

That didnt really sound right...

snicker;>
Walt
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.81.118)
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thanks all, with the dough I've spent in the last few weeks putting together my heat exchanger and still yet having to purchase a pump, I really can't see putting the cash into these. I'll make do for a while.
 

Joe Sandlin (66.207.81.26)
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm in the same boat, BBB. I think QD's are on my Christmas list in 2006.
Meanwhile, I just use normal garden hose fittings. I have other brewtoys higher on my wish list.
 

Belly Buster Bob (131.137.245.197)
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have access to several 1/2 couplings like those used for water heaters, they unscrew but would be better than undoing clamps all the time
 

Bill Pierce (24.141.129.137)
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I love hoses and quick disconnects. They make reconfiguring the system a snap and eliminate a lot of hard piping as well as greatly increase flexibility.
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.73.75)
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I really value all the opinions. I can easily see the benefits of the QD's. Some God Awful expensive though. If only there were a place I could buy them off the shelf, I would do it a couple at a time
 

Dave Witt (172.168.248.246)
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok all you pump/hose/QD users out there. How do you NOT make a mess when disconnecting a hose full of hot wort? (ie. to connect the pump to HLT for pumping sparge water, etc.)

I'm planning a HERMS (for about 2 yrs now) and thought it would be much cleaner (less mess) to have a majority of the plumbing hard plumbed. Just turn a couple valves to send wort/hot liquor to wherever. But it sounds messy to disconnect the hose from the recirc/coil and connect a line to pump wort to kettle, etc. Am I imagining things or is it just an occasional drop or two of wort?

Oh, I've already collected a few sets of polysulfone QDs because I figure I'd need at least a couple.
 

Kent Fletcher (206.170.107.30)
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Obvously you start by closing the ball valve. :)
With the hose still connected at one end, there's very little spillage. Some changes only require moving one hose from one connection to another.

Example: While HERMS mashing, the suction line of the hose is connected to the MLT outlet. The discharge is connected to my HERMS coil inlet (via a little hard piped double solenoid valve bypass manifold). The HERMS outlet is connected to the MLT wort retrun manifold. To change to fly sparge setup all I do is close the MLT outlet, disconnect the pump suction line from the MLT and reconnect it to the HLT outlet. I attach a shorter hose to MLT to run-off into the kettle. Then when I'm sparging the hot liqour is pumped through the HERMS coil and into the MLT, taking the residual wort with it.

The only spillage is a few drops from the fittings after the valves.
 

Chuck Denofrio (64.135.203.58)
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Use 2 pumps.
 

Tom Gardner (198.81.26.14)
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There's not much spillage, but brewing outside, I just hose down at the end.
 

Bill Pierce (24.141.129.137)
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I keep a small plastic bowl for catching any drippings when I change hoses with quick disconnects. There's little spillage (of course you have to remember to close the valve before disconnecting).
 

Jon Czerwinski (64.1.35.66)
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One line of brass QD's at Lowe's have O-rings on the male fitting, which for me has eliminated any leaks. That same line has female fittings with a plunger in the line that stops the flow when you disconnect it. The male fitting pushes the plunger back up in the line, opening it up.

FWIW, so far I have only used the hose/QD setup on my immersion chiller lines.

http://joncz.home.mindspring.com/graphics/chillersetup.jpg
 

Bill Pierce (24.141.129.137)
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The brass QDs have the disadvantage of becoming very hot, making it necessary to use gloves when handling them.
 

RJ Testerman (208.31.88.53)
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some food for thought (I got the information from this board) is use males for the out fittings and females for the in fittings, that way you end up with connecting hoses that can be joined togetherů

RJ
 

Belly Buster Bob (142.177.105.215)
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rj you could also take advantage of that to keep sanitised hoses clean by connecting in closed loop
 

Walt Fischer (24.221.196.114)
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jon Czerwinski,
Those sound like the same ones i had used at first...
Unfort, they would drip at first till heated up and wort started flowing through em...
When i finally got pissed at em enough and tossed em and went to the usplastics ones, i noticed the way they worked was that some rubber thing in there seals off that plunger when it slides back and forth, and they were decomposing and just about to fall apart...
Thats after 1 year of use...
Beware... itll happen to yours sooner or later too im gonna guess...

Walt

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