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Wm John Ivey
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Username: Fat_elvis

Post Number: 207
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just went outside to setup my equipment to brew a nice weisenbock and to my dismay I found the brewery in a sad shape. I did the unthinkable, I forgot to clean and sanatize the equipment before putting them to bed. I rinsed everything off ofcourse, but no elbow grease. It looks like a long day of scrubbing and a long night of brewing (Since it hit 108' here in Phx yesterday it might be alot cooler :-) ). Anybody else pulled a bonehead like this one?
Thanks
John
 

Chad Dickinson
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Username: Icehouse

Post Number: 265
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I never sanitize at cleanup, I always lightly scrub, using just a green scotch pad, and water.

I sanitize thouroughly right before I use the stuff on brewday.

Why sanitize twice?

Just my thoughts, and I'm pretty new....
 

Brandon Dachel
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Username: Brandon

Post Number: 1080
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

> Why sanitize twice?

*Exactly*
 

Eric Lord
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Username: Eric_lord

Post Number: 34
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm with Chad on this one. I never sanitize after brew day. Not even my CFC. Everything gets rinsed, and if I have the energy, I might scrub my brew pot or mash tun. Heck, I have even left my grain bed in my mash tun for several weeks. No worries, just clean it before you use it next time.
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 3108
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I tend to clean up as I go (dump the grains once the boil has started, etc.) so by the time I'm done all I have to do is scrub the kettle a bit. And what the heck are ya gonna pre-sanitize, anyway?
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Michael
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Username: Michaelg

Post Number: 72
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I rinse and do any scrubbing before I put everything away. It's just easier.

The one time I forgot I came back to find the spigot and screen on my brew kettle covered in mold. That was something of a hassle to get out.
 

Wm John Ivey
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Username: Fat_elvis

Post Number: 208
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, Michael I can relate, it only took two hours to get things going, if I would of known I would of done it last night. Brewing in the heat of the day is the pits, but I am interested on how fast the CFC will work. I think I might as well use a prechiller to help. Keep yall posted.
John
 

Mark Bushey
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Username: Spiff95

Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I left my brew kettle once for a few days. There was a nice little civilization of enlightened fungi and molds, but their technology was no match for hot, soapy water and a scrub pad.

Like Denny sez, clean as you go and you'll only have to clean and rinse your kettle at the end of the session.
 

Dan Mourglea
Intermediate Member
Username: Cataclysmbrewer

Post Number: 424
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, I learned to do as Denny said and clean as I go. . .I find the clean-up easier and because there's lots of down time in the brew day it makes the day much shorter, very little clean-up after the beer goes in the fermenter.
 

John Oberley
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Username: Joberley

Post Number: 2
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use an immersion chiller, and I find that the water coming out of it (after the initial blast o' hot water) is perfect for cleanup. I rinse my mash tun, etc. in the water from the chiller. I do NOT, however, sanitize anything when I'm done. Seems a tad bit of overkill to me. As stated above, why do it twice?
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 94
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a sign in my brewery:

Clean it!

Before you use it...

Clean it!

After you use it...

Clean it!


However, as the others have said, I only sanitize once before using any items that will come in contact with the cooled wort or fermented beer.
 

Jeffery Swearengin
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Username: Beertracker

Post Number: 208
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All is forgiven my brewing son! I believe that having to scrub & scour all the wild beasties off everything is punishment enough. Now go have yourself a beer!
CHEERS! Beertracker

"Hop pickers are God's guardians of beer & health." --- Saint Arnold of Soissons (1040-1087) ~ Patron Saint of Hop Growers

 

David Beckerdite
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Username: Darkislandfan

Post Number: 184
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beer makers have Patron Saints too?

WOW!\I learn something new every single time I read this board.

Brew On!
 

Jeffery Swearengin
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Username: Beertracker

Post Number: 210
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now, that just shows you how important fermentation actually was (is) to society?

(Message edited by beertracker on June 27, 2004)
CHEERS! Beertracker

"Hop pickers are God's guardians of beer & health." --- Saint Arnold of Soissons (1040-1087) ~ Patron Saint of Hop Growers

 

Joe Alf
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Username: Joea

Post Number: 163
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I read that one of the miracles that was used for the canonization of St Arnoldus was the restoration of a brewery belonging to a religious order [Trappists?].The brewery and the beer, which was critical to the finances of the monastary, had been destroyed in a storm.It was immediatly restored due to the prayer of this great saint\brewer.
Now, that just shows how important fermentation actually is ..to God.

From man's sweat and God's love,beer came into the world. St.Arnoldus
 

Jeffery Swearengin
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Username: Beertracker

Post Number: 214
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joe,
I'm not sure where I came up with quote? I think I found it on a Belgian beer website when I was researching quotes for our club's website database. I do remember that St. Arnold(us) of Metz ~ Patron Saint of Brewers lived much earlier than St. Arnold of Soissons. If I find the actual source then I'll be happy to pass it along.
CHEERS! Beertracker

"Hop pickers are God's guardians of beer & health." --- Saint Arnold of Soissons (1040-1087) ~ Patron Saint of Hop Growers

 

Doug J
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Username: Doug_j

Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't forget St. Brigid of Ireland.
One of her miracles was that she turned her bathwater into beer.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 194
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You have to figure that St. Brigid was a real looker.
 

Joe Alf
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Username: Joea

Post Number: 165
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice intro to the Board Doug,
I've heard of turning water into wine,
and peoples making bathwater beer,
Heck have a little faith Doug,
I even beleive Dan is tying to turn some dried bugs into beer so he can start his own cacada tradition,
I wish I was so enlightened.
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 125
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, I can see her now....ivory complexion, strawberry blonde hair, and a nasty little grin like she's been drinking the bathwater.
 

PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 986
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't forget St Pauli of Girl. I'm not sure what the miracle was, maybe to make good beer taste like skunk.

PTA
 

Wykowski
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Username: Bigearl

Post Number: 1065
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yes, you can click on my profile, to see my Shrine to St Pauli of Girl , Patron Saint of Chicks with Big Mugs
 

Mark Bushey
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Username: Spiff95

Post Number: 46
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Man, ain't nothin' like a chick with big mugs!
 

Jeffery Swearengin
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Username: Beertracker

Post Number: 220
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey that's a good one!
CHEERS! Beertracker

"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers

 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 767
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Easiest way to clean up a BIG mess? Don't make one.

I'm with the clean up as you go crowd. I left the mash tun and kettle overnight once due to time constrainsts. Only once.