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ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 969
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The wrench got in my brewing schedule. I must brew today. I am interested in the lower IBU SSOS as aluded to in a post about 1020 % 1728 yeasts..
I guess Bill P. has lowered the IBU's to 86?
ELK
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 970
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I see Bill P. posting tracks so I think he will be along shortly..THe flame is on the HLT now. ITs dard and about 38 degrees, high of 40 today and fog. I tweaked Promash and lowered the 60 min bitter hops from 6 - 3 oz chinnook and IBUS go from 160- 91.5... Any comments?
ELK

Sidebar...Anyone want to "virtual brew" today?
Did you hear about that guy in TX that has a .22 hooked up to the internet where you can aim it an shoot? He is now thinking about doing the same on wild game animals????
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 408
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sticking with 6 ounces chinooks in mine. I think you get 'flavor' from the 60 minute addition too! I may be wrong...3 ounces of hops are only a few pennies after all. Don't be cheap.
My 2 cents.
WacoBob
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 409
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We are both making 10 gallon batches, eh?
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 1212
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm not sure I can taste more than 86 IBUs, and it just seemed like a waste of hops to me. Besides, I admit I like malt with my hops, which is one of the reasons this beer is so satisfying to me. But you're free to do whatever suits your fancy.
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 973
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Waco, have you tried it with the 6 oz before? I have and it is kinda bitter and plety of hops no doubt. I have the hops. I just tied up 3 oz into the first bag and might go with that. Yes I just added the last of my fly sparge water now... I have 9 gallons and the boil pot is on! 10 gal batch.. I actuall shoot for 12.6 into kettle and final 10.4 into fermenters...
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 974
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

45 min left in the boil for me...I did end up with a little over 13 gals...The max for a 15.5 kettle...
 

Hophead
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Username: Hophead

Post Number: 1054
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Recipe purists aside, this is (to me) one of those recipes that gets better with age due to the (over)hopping. If you want to drink it in a month instead of 3-6 months (pine suckers excluded), then I would reduce the hops, say way downto 90ibus or so...

Of course, for your first time, one shouldn't tweak until one tastes the original...

I feel so PC today...
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 975
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Flame out coolant on at 9:30am. A new brew record for me. And the MT is dumped and rinsed out...I even remembered everything? That is like so many hops bags its sick!!!! I Did the 90IBU version because I do want it for New years and last years batch was only enjoyed by me and a very few other hophead wanna bees.
Darn its cold out without the sun and with wet body parts. ITs so fooggy that I should be duck hunting...This will be the last batch (4@10gal since fall) till after the new year.
ELK
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 976
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Darn it... I did just see that I through in my old small IC and not the new big one...Add 25 mins for cooling...Dang It is one of those 25' 3/8" that Ic's where the coils are all wired together and my theory is that the tubing is to close together (.1").
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 3856
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is no such thing as a lower IBU SSOS...that would be a different beer.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 410
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, I've made it with 6 oz. My notes show that I tapped the 1st keg 5 weeks after filling ( my keg is my 'secondary' ).
I'm sure it is great with 3 oz. Chinooks too. Enjoy!
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 1220
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, I still don't see how you could taste any more than about 90 IBUs. I suppose the only way to be sure would be to split the runoff and boil and ferment it in two batches. My instincts tell me they would be very similar.
 

Beerboy AKA The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 573
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think it's the ibu's that one tastes, it is the hop. Chinook is a distinctive hop and you get that clean sharp taste coming through even with all the goldings and fuggles flavour and aroma. That is why I think using the full quantity is a must. As far as the IBU's are concerned 90 -160 same difference!
Real Ale Crusader and all round Hophead
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 3857
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill, I'm just being crabby cause it's still early here! Don't go throwin' logic at me! OTOH, I think anybody who can't handle a 120 IBU beer when it's fresh just doesn't get it...
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

davidw
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Username: Davidw

Post Number: 735
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There sure is a lot of hop resin floating around this thread . . .
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 1222
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wonder what we're all smoking?
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 977
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well I will be able to tell you the differnce in memory anyway of the 3 oz less Chinnook. Yeast in at 11am another record for me. 6 hours after jumping out of bed with no prior setup and now most of the stuff is clean!! I do predict another messy ferment..I had 5 + 5.5 gals and then foamy O2 and those darn 3 pint starters for each and I am waiting for the head to go down some to seal the lids. Ferment temp will be 65 amb probably 68 in the pails??? IS that good?.
ELK
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 978
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OG hit 1.077 target 1.074 Eff promash 80+%
ELK
 

Andrew Pearce
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Username: Live4beer

Post Number: 311
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe you can call it DRSOS. Distant Relative Star of the Sun.