Post Number: 4240
|Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:09 pm: ||
Our club is having a contest to clone Anchor Liberty and I've got to come up with a recipe. The website is no help, beyond stating that it's 6% ABV. Has anybody brewed a Liberty clone before? Are we looking at anything other than pale malt, crystal and a bunch of Cascades?
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
Post Number: 2310
|Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:29 pm: ||
Denny, there's a recipe in the July-August 2003 issue of Zymurgy. If you don't have access to it, let me know and I'll pass it along. You've got the basic idea. The grain bill is pale malt and light crystal. The bittering hops are Northern Brewer (not surprising) and everything else is Cascades. I've heard that Anchor's ale strain is Wyeast 1272.
Post Number: 2770
|Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 10:37 pm: ||
My standard APA recipe is very close to Anchor Liberty. I'll post it again.
Gust o' Wind Pale Ale
OG 1.060 FG 1.014 IBUs > 100
10 lbs. Maris Otter pale ale malt
1 lb. aromatic malt
1 lb. unmalted wheat (Montana low protein white winter wheat)
1 lb. light clover honey
1.5 oz. whole Cascades FWH
2.0 oz. Northern Brewer (8.1%) (60 min)
1.5 oz. whole Cascades (45 min)
1.0 oz. whole Cascades (15 min)
1 tsp Irish Moss (15 min)
1.0 oz. whole Cascades (1 min)
1.0 oz. whole Cascades (dry)
Wyeast 1056 or 1272 - 1.5 L starter
For the wheat, I just crush it in my Vita-mix mixer until it resembles a coarse flower with chunks. Mash-in at 150°F. After 45 minutes, add an infusion of boiling water to raise to 158° for another 45 minutes. Batch sparge twice, add water to reach your pre-boil volume. Boil for 90 miuntes. Add honey at the end of the boil. Chill and aerate, ferment at 68°F, transfer to a secondary, add the dry hops, and age for two more weeks. Keg or bottle.
This beer is brilliantly clear, has a massive thick white head, and prickles the tongue. It won a 1st place in the APA/IPA category in the 2001 NHC Midwest Regional the one time I entered it into a contest.
Post Number: 413
|Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 11:47 pm: ||
Liberty is pretty simple. Bill's correct in his recipe description.
I would go heavier on the aroma addition than the flavor addition.
Post Number: 172
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:04 am: ||
Anchor Liberty used to have a big hop aroma, but sadly it seems to have disappeared in recent years. Living not far from SF, I get it fresh, but it just isn't the same. I'll confirm this when I get back from the brewery for the Anchor Homebrew Club of the Year Party this Sat. and sample all their beers at the open bar. The Toronado Barleywine fest starts the same day. I hope I survive this weekend.
Post Number: 68
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:39 am: ||
Maybe it's just that my tastes have changed since I began homebrewing, now that I know what a big, fresh hop aroma is supposed to smell like, but both Anchor Liberty and SNPA seem to have fallen off rather precipitously in the aroma arena. Maybe it's just me.
Post Number: 2312
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:41 am: ||
It is (or at least was) dry hopped with Cascades. The supposed IBUs are 47, so it's a relatively but not outrageously bitter beer as well (the O.G. is 1.058), but I agree it needs substantial hop aroma.
Post Number: 2318
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 02:09 am: ||
Fifteen years ago SNPA was as hoppy as most American beer drinkers had ever experienced, even the adventuresome ones like us. Today there are a host of hop monster IIPAs that make SNPA seem somewhat bland. I'm not sure this hop arms race is all for the best, but I suspect I'm something of a fuddy-duddy about this. I still expect hoppy beers to have malt support. That's why SNCA and Sister Star of the Sun have about as much hop presence as I would ever want.
Post Number: 53
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 02:28 am: ||
The North American Clone Brew book has an Anchor Liberty clone that seems to be a relatively good effort.
Post Number: 587
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 03:13 am: ||
Can you really be a "fuddy-duddy" or do we need to do a better job classifying our beers?
C'mon "American India Pale Ale"???
BTW 15 years ago I was 6 years away from legal drinking age.
(Message edited by avmech on February 16, 2005)
Post Number: 4242
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 04:59 pm: ||
Thanks Bill and everyone else. I'm pretty sure I've got that issue of Zymurgy around.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
Post Number: 914
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 05:08 pm: ||
Don't forget the Cascade flavour and aroma addition, Denny . . . wait, did someone already say that?
Post Number: 308
|Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 06:29 pm: ||
"C'mon "American India Pale Ale"???"
I make those all the time. The key is in using lots of Tomahawk hops ;)