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Eric Lord
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Username: Eric_lord

Post Number: 64
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have finally discovered a fundamental truth regarding Aleís. I have made over 70 all grain aleís, anytime I hop less than 25 IBUís, I seem to get disappointing results. Anytime I hop over 30 IBUíís one of the best beers I have ever tasted. There seems to be this overlaying flavor that you cannot get rid of, when you under hop. No amount of aging, lagering, or yeast type seems to get rid of this flavor. The flavor is not offensive, but is hidden when you use enough hops.
Has anyone else observed such a thing?
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 2425
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I certainly haven't noticed such a thing, although I'm wondering if your beers have an underlying astringency that is not noticeable unless the bittering is low.

For example, I can think of a summer (blond) ale I brew. The grist is 100 percent Maris Otter malt and it is bittered only to 21 IBUs. With Wyeast 1318 it has a wonderful soft, fruity quality and no astringency at all.
 

davidw
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Username: Davidw

Post Number: 927
Registered: 03-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Perhaps it is the *malt* flavour you are tasting?

;)
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 4280
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eric, what you've discovered is true for your own tastes. Tastes differ...even a hardcore hophead like I am can appreciate a fine helles.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Ron Siddall
Member
Username: Listerdister

Post Number: 124
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, a fine helles.

Something one day I will deliver to you.
 

Denny Conn
Senior Member
Username: Denny

Post Number: 4281
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ron, I swear I wasn't thinking of you! It just happens to be one of my favorite styles! But I AM looking forward to your next attempt!
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Patrick C.
Intermediate Member
Username: Patrickc

Post Number: 283
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any better description of your off flavor? What's your water chemistry like? You may have something weird that causes the flavor, and the stronger bitterness covers it. Or maybe you just like more bitter beer.
 

Ron Siddall
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Username: Listerdister

Post Number: 125
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, I know you weren't but I could not pass up the poetic beauty of the moment.