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Steve Fletty
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Post Number: 140
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The standings have been updated for the top 10: http://sphbc.truthbrew.com/mwhboy

More complete standings will be out within the next week.

There has been some movement, with a few people jumping into the top 5.
 

Paul Erbe
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Post Number: 253
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Steve do you need to be a member of one of those clubs or just enter each of those contests.

Has anyone suggested that one of your past winners may want to lay off and give some one else a chance.
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer."
-- Frank Zappa
 

Pacman
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone suggested that one of your past winners may want to lay off and give some one else a chance.

Why wouldn't you want to beat the best to win? I wouldn't feel too good about winning if i knew that certain brewers were left out because they were too successful... If I win i want it to be because mine was the best not because the best didn't enter...
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Steve Fletty
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You don't have to be a club member to win, just live in one of the states mentioned on the rules page.

I just took over running the contest, so I'm trying to raise the visibility a bit. Wtih only 4 of 9 contests done, it is really anyone's game right now.

I'm working on getting a woodworker contact to make a unique trophy, maybe a hand turned goblet, like what we've given away for the Twin Cities homebrew contest. Not sure yet.

I'm also going to look into sponshorship and see if I can get some prize donated.
 

Chumley
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Paul obviously didn't read the page:

"The Midwest Homebrewer of the Year Award was established in 1990 to promote Midwest Homebrew Competitions and to recognize the excellent and diverse brewing skills of one diligent Midwest Homebrewer"

That one diligent Midwest Homebrewer wouldn't be, umm, Joe Formanek by any chance?
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As far Joe dominating...he's a great brewer and a nice guy. It would be cool if somone could step up and take him on.

I think there are several people who can do it that are in the top 10 now. I'm sure there more people out there too who haven't entered.
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pac - you are right. I have only entered one competition and it was many years ago. I found the comments interesting. I advanced to a second round and did OK. I think I was 4th. Since then I have not really needed the adulation that goes along with winning a comp. I just enjoy my beer.
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer."
-- Frank Zappa
 

Chris Vejnovich
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm, no Nebraska brewers. Is this thing associated with the AHA? Because I know some brewers who have won ribbons at Nationals from Nebraska that I would think could certainly command a top spot in this ranking. I am not trying to knock the top guy or anything, just wondering how promoted this comp series is as I have never heard anything about it. By the way, I am the all time winner of all competitions that are held at my home with my beer exclusivly being judged.(sorry for the sarcastic ending)
 

Bill Aimonetti
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wonder if Joe ships UPS?
 

Chumley
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I feel so left out. Did you know that 2/3 of Montana lies within the Midwest/Great Plains physiographic province? But then again, I've just retired from non-local beer competitions.
 

David Spaedt
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Steve,

Do I read this right in that the Michigan State Fair is not part of the series? There are only nine total comps?
 

davidw
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think the MWHBOTY is intended to encompass every single competition that is held in this area.
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David-

The Michegan State Fair isn't part of the circuit.

They had another competition over there that is on hiatus. I'm not familiar with all the details.
 

Chet Nunan
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm not sure, but doesn't the Mich. St. Fair only allow Michigan brewers?

That would keep it out of the loop MWHBOTY runs, imo...
 

Pacman
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you have to draw the line somewhere.. not every state in the midwest can be a part of it and not every competition in those states can be qualifying events or it would get to be too much to handle...

The MWHBOTY isn't the only event like this out there. Another one I can think of is the High Plains Brewer. I know there are a couple of others that i've seen too i just can't think of them off the top of my head. Go to the website of the largest competition near you and most likely they are part of something like this. For example, The Dixie Cup is part of the Gulf Coast Homebrewer of the Year.
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4 Hounds Brewing Co.
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As the recently retired director of the MI State Fair Comp., I can comment. The MSF Homebrew Competition is open only to MI homebrewers. Those rules are set up by the State Fair folks. Truth be told, I don't think the competition could handle any more entries....we took in over 340 entries last year just from Michigan homebrewers. Even in their best year the Rochester Mills Comp. took in about 380 from all states and provinces. I don't know for certain but I think the Rochester Mills competition may be on a long hiatus if not done alltogether.

Paul said:

"Has anyone suggested that one of your past winners may want to lay off and give some one else a chance."

What a great idea....lowest common denominator brewing. I don't mean to be hard, but a competition is really to find out who is the best of the best....not a means to award medals to everyone for effort. Strangely enough, brewer number 4 on that list said exactly the same thing to me when I was director. He wanted a really talented brewer (Rick Georgette) disqualified for winning too much....to give someone else a chance. That brewer (number 4 not Rick) is a nut case and called me to complain one year after his Wit lost to another because his was "the best Wit I've ever had". He is a strange bird}.

Cheers!

J
 

Pacman
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He wanted a really talented brewer (Rick Georgette) disqualified for winning too much....to give someone else a chance.

no kidding.. that's funny.. back in 2001-2002 when i was entering a lot of comps i had a little competition with myself to see if i could keep up with Rick... man that guy won a lot... i haven't noticed his name in competitions for the last couple of years... i thought he would be the one to take down Joe...
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

Heath
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not to offend those of you whom enter contests but really do you need affirmation that much? I have loved ones strangers friends who drink my beer and love it. To me thats the real mark of a brewer. Not sending bottles to a couple beer snobs to sit around drinking 4oz(orwhatever) glasses of it. I agree some of the prizes that can be won are nice but somehow I feel it to be second to the bragging rights some of you flaunt.
Which to me is silly, adolescent and a waste of time. Theres far more pleasure for me in turning someone on to taste they have never had before, not some wannabe beer judge, whos subjective pallete is trained.

Heath
 

4 Hounds Brewing Co.
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rick has been on an extended break. I went over his house a couple of years ago. He had just had a new addition put on the house that took a lot of his time. He promised to get brewing again and enter competitions but that hasn't happened as far as I know. He is a really upstanding guy and a great brewer.

On a side note, I asked to see his system....the system that produces so many award winning beers. He opened the door to the basement and the entire stairwell was covered floor to ceiling (and even a few ribbons on the ceiling) with medals, awards and ribbons. Truly intimidating. What was not intimidating was his system. A total hodge-podge system like most of us have. He brews in the old coal bin under the house with a small ventilation system. I was amazed that he could do it on that system. It really made me realize it was the hand of the brewer that won all those awards.

Cheers!

Jim
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heath-

I understand what you're saying and I'm of two minds about he whole comp thing.

On the other hand, entering is fun. I guess I'm a bit competitive and I also like winning stuff. One year I won a stainless conical fermentor, which was a bit cool.

I started entering competitions because I wanted to improve my beer and get objective feedback.

Now, not every score sheet I get back is worth the entry fee and I wonder what I'm doing at times sending off a case of beer and paying all that shipping, but I can honestly say that entering competitions and becoming a BJCP judge has helped me be a better brewer.

I also enjoy going to competitions and meeting fellow brewers.

I don't need the goofy ribbons, but it is fun to see how your beer stacks up against other great brewers and see how well I can hit the style.

The real high point for me was taking a silver in AHA Nationals last year with my CAP and getting a score sheet from Jeff Renner who gave me pretty high marks. Reading an article of his on CAP was one of the things that really got me started brewing seriously.

So, it can be silly, but there a lot sillier things to me. Like NASCAR. I just don't get that. Or some of the weird junk people collect.

Whatever.
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heath-

Another note on competition feedback.

Yeah, you can brew solo and enjoy your beer. Family and friends might also think it kicks butt, however, I like getting objective, blind feedback from really good judges, and there are a few, rather than just the random Joe, who slurps some beer down and says, "Yeah, tastes great. Awesone job, dude!" Which has it's place, I gues....

Gee that was helpful. Did you get the hops nose? How did I do with the malt profile? Did you think the yeast was appropriate? What would you do to kick it up a notch?
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Like NASCAR. I just don't get that.

You can't be an 'mericin and not like NASCAR

(i dont get it either)
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer."
-- Frank Zappa
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

4 Hounds-

Man, I knew dogs could play poker, but I didn't know they could brew too!

If you see Rick, tell him the title is still up for grabs this year.
 

Heath
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Point taken Steve, and yes NASCAR is quite silly. Dont tell my neighbors I said that, being in a rural area car shows and nascar is the thing around here. No wonder I have few friends, or maybe its my big mouth.

Heath
 

David Spaedt
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

davidw,

I realize that but the link Steve posted includes a link that leads to the Michigan State Fair but then is not listed on the results page. I was a little confused but Steve clear it up.

Thanks
 

Pacman
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not to offend those of you whom enter contests but really do you need affirmation that much?
Yes, love me.. worship me.. know that my beer is the bestest best in the whole world and that i have ribbons to prove it...

Actually i'm with Steve on this.. the main reasons i enter competitions is because 1.) i am a very competitive person 2.) i like the feedback on my beers... part of the fun of brewing for me is the challange of looking at the guidelines and being able to produce a good beer that hits those guidelines.... for me to find out how good i'm doing i get feedback from comps... i am a Style Nazi through and through.. oh yeah, and winning stuff is fun too... the prizes can be very nice depending on the size of the comp...

Which to me is silly, adolescent and a waste of time.
man, you described me perfectly..

Like NASCAR. I just don't get that.
and yes NASCAR is quite silly.

now you guys are just getting mean...
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

davidw
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I see what you're saying, David, I should have looked at the link a little closer myself. Sorry if I offended.

(Message edited by davidw on June 17, 2005)
 

davidw
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

" . . . know that my beer is the bestest best in the whole world . . . "

When it stays in the keg, eh Pac?

Sorry, dude, I know that isn't funny.
 

Heath
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Im a ghost and Im not blue!

Im my own worst critic when it comes to beer. I do see the value in someone elses critique but hence I am greedy and "cant spare a square".

Heath
 

Pacman
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ahahahahah davidw.. actually that is funny.. not much i can do now but laugh at it... what's not funny is cleaning it up...

Im my own worst critic when it comes to beer.

i hear ya... i am the hardest on my own beer.. this is why i send mine out for evaluation... i've probably dumped more beer due to it not turning out exactly the way i wanted it than anything else... not to say there was anything wrong with it and it wasn't drinkable it just didn't hit the mark for me... if i'm not happy with it, whether it tastes good or not, i most likely won't drink it...
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

Skotrat
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I personally think that it is time for Joe to be put in the "Hall of Fame" and allow others to move up.

He has nothing to prove and there should be limitations.

Joe is a great brewer.

Time to let others shine though.

Just my opinion.

-Scott
 

Steve Fletty
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dumped beer that was drinkable but didn't hit the mark! My god, man!

So, you're in Indiana, which makes you eligible for Midwest Homebrewer of the Year....
 

Pacman
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yupp Steve, and that was my goal for 2003 before i lost my job and was unemployed for the rest of the year... i had entered the drunk monk and the BOSS comp already that year...

i'm planning on enter 3-4 of the last 5 this year....
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!