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Magnus Graham
Member
Username: Cellarman
Post Number: 215
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 10:37 pm: | 
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Was early brewing a product of boiling water (no need for thermometers) and the right quantity of grain to bring the temp into the correct mash range?
If so what quantity of grain and what was the strength of the beer?
Mag |
Magnus Graham
Member
Username: Cellarman
Post Number: 216
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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Ok I'll try to answer my own question -
10litres of boiling water
10kg of malted barley at 20deg C
Resultant mash temperature - 60 degrees C
Bit of jiggery pokery and accounting for heat capacity and cooling during mixing and we could have the first strength of beer.
Would it work? It would be pretty stiff stuff.
Fredrik? An experiment for you.
Or is this a generally known fact?
Magnus |
Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann
Post Number: 1340
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:30 am: |
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I wonder when boiling water was invented?
Dan
Listermann Mfg.,Co. www.listermann.com
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robert rulmyr
Advanced Member
Username: Wacobob
Post Number: 634
Registered: 02-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 11:35 am: |
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Not sure about when invented, but, I'm pretty sure it was sold in this country first at St. Pat's. |
Tom Meier
Intermediate Member
Username: Brewdawg96
Post Number: 296
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 12:59 pm: |
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I thought they heated the water until the bubbles started rising. I've always noticed this would not be a half bad temp for strike water if the mash was pretty thick. Seems like it is around 170-180F. You know, the reduced gas solubility causes CO2, O2, N2,et. al. to start breaking out |
jeff wright
Junior Member
Username: Barly
Post Number: 99
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:49 pm: |
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I think the "Rule of thumb" was the "rule of thumb"...If the thumb could be left in the mash for a certain count...well, the temp was right.
Heard that little snippet somewhere or other.
brew on,
Jeff |
Bill Freeman/ER
Junior Member
Username: Elderrat
Post Number: 78
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 02:58 pm: |
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Dan, didn't you invent boiling water? Or was it AL Gore? And then you had to come up with wind chill to get the boiling water back to normal temp.
Bill Freeman aka Elder Rat
KP Brewery - home of "the perfesser"
Birmingham, AL
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Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann
Post Number: 1341
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 03:26 pm: |
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Thanks for your thoughts, Bill.
Dan
Listermann Mfg.,Co. www.listermann.com
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Skotrat
Advanced Member
Username: Skotrat
Post Number: 933
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 03:50 pm: |
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I wonder how fast the fans have to spin the air that is coming off the solar powered mirrors to cause the plastic bags to generate enough heat for the water to boil???
/Fredrik???? |
Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann
Post Number: 1343
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:02 pm: |
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Scott, instead of just baiting me, why don't you explain what you are talking about? Then everybody will understand!
Dan Listermann
Listermann Mfg.,Co. www.listermann.com
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Skotrat
Advanced Member
Username: Skotrat
Post Number: 936
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:04 pm: |
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Dan,
Huh?
I don't get it...
- Scott |
Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann
Post Number: 1344
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:13 pm: |
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Right. I guess we will have to keep the little secret to ourselves and your little buddies.
Do you get that?
Dan
Listermann Mfg.,Co. www.listermann.com
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PalerThanAle
Senior Member
Username: Palerthanale
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 04-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:14 pm: |
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If you two don't stop, I'm gonna tell dad.
PTA
Common sense is the least common of all senses.
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Skotrat
Advanced Member
Username: Skotrat
Post Number: 937
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:15 pm: |
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RULE #2 huh Dan?
RULE #2 |
Doug J
Member
Username: Doug_j
Post Number: 110
Registered: 06-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 04:31 pm: |
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There are historical references to heating the water until it looked like a mirror for proper mash temp. I do not know what causes the increased reflectivity of the water, but I have noticed the effect. |
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