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PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 1598
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 65.168.73.125
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Luckily Denny, Bill P and Tim Roth no longer have to worry about this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051130/hl_nm/drinking_dementia_dc

PTA
Water separates the people of the world, beer unites them.
 

Josh Johnson
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Username: Msujdog

Post Number: 81
Registered: 07-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only bad thing about Alzheimers is that you forget how good beer tastes.

By the way, the only bad thing about Alzheimers is that you forget how good beer tastes.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 2140
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What were we talking about?

Dan

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Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 4041
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***** for Josh.

So much for Cliff Clavin's theory of the buffalo herd.

(Message edited by BillPierce on December 01, 2005)
 

tim roth
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Username: Hopdude

Post Number: 334
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Herd of Buffalo? Yah, I herd of buffalo.

Thanks alot PTA! Now I can worry about something, other than my IIPA. Or, is that IIQ? Dang, now I can't abbreviate.....
Or, can II?
You know I'm on the level because, my bubble is in the middle.
 

PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 1599
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 65.168.73.125
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

like it states - middle age - so you are in the clear.

PTA
Water separates the people of the world, beer unites them.
 

q-ceps
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Username: Qceps

Post Number: 153
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 209.50.91.70
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So they got a group of middle-aged people to accurately recall and fill out questionnaires with details regarding amounts of alcohol consumed during their alcohol binges...

How can they have dementia - that alone is above-average mental performance.
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 2011
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My mom has dementia big time and she never drank a drop until she was in her 70's. Even then she never had more that a couple of glasses of wine at a time. So much for that therory.

Did Dean Martin have dementia?
 

J. Steinhauer
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Username: Jstein6870

Post Number: 770
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 69.19.14.18
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of course I did not read the study (and I suppose the journalist knows as much of the study as I do). They did say "overall". This suggests to me that they did not account for other health problems, smoking, socioeconomics, pre-midlife IQ, family history of dementia, etc., etc., etc. What if you isolated all binge(?) drinking MENSA members? They could lose half their IQ and still not be demented.

If you ever watch Jay Leno's interviews of the people on the street, you know that the Average American is already demented, anyway.

These alcohol and health studes are always so lamearse. Geez, virtually every night that I don't work the next day I drink 60 ounces of beer or more.
 

Magnus Graham
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Username: Cellarman

Post Number: 225
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 84.201.149.189
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Next thing they'll try to tell us prions exist.

Is the incidence of dementia higher in the UK population where binging is great fun and occurs every Friday? Compare France (habitual) and Scandinavia (bingers).

The report suggests a bit of a pick and choose of statistics?

Drink on and forget about the potential consequences.
keep it simple they've made beer for millennia
mash it boil it hop it yeast it drink it
 

don price
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Username: Donzoid

Post Number: 785
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

....and chlorinated water causes an increased cancer risk. Big deal. You're going to take the big dirt nap someday and nothing can stop you.

Don
 

Bryan Perkins
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Username: Bryanperkins

Post Number: 32
Registered: 05-2003
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since when is 5 beers considered a binge?
 

Tony Legge
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Username: Boo_boo

Post Number: 104
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 142.163.136.43
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And Don, the way to last longer is to be pickled when you go.
 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

Post Number: 317
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 65.7.92.247
Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tony, and if you prefer cremation, if you are pickled your carcass will burn faster, not to mention all the lipids that you will have built up.
 

Miker
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Post Number: 338
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

....and chlorinated water causes an increased cancer risk. Big deal. You're going to take the big dirt nap someday and nothing can stop you.

This is strange logic to me. If you knew something caused an increased cancer risk (can't say I've heard this about chlorinated water, but it wouldn't surprise me a lot) wouldn't you try to avoid it if possible. Sure we all gotta go, but believe me there are nicer ways to go than cancer.
 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

Post Number: 321
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Miker, I think don p is talking about the formation of trihalomethanes when chlorine reacts with organic matter in water. THM are thought to be a cancer concern.

But hell, if we did not use chlorine or some other disinfectant with residual effects, we would all be preoccupied with crapping ourselves to death with typhoid, cholera, ditptheria, giardia, dysentery or any number of other water-borne nasties.

So we elliminate a huge risk and replace it with a tiny one. I'll take it.

T
 

Vance Barnes
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are so many things known and still to be discoverd that can cause cancer that where do you start to be concerned? If you worried about them all you'd go crazy so what's the point. I look at it as the price we pay for living in the time period we do. We still have a longer life expectancy that people a century ago before most of the carcnegins were around anyhow.

Although I read last week about a town in CA where there is such a high level of naturally occuring asbestoes that the baseball fields are toxic.
 

Mike Mayer
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Post Number: 546
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Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think any of it matters, your demise has been pre-determined, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it!! That's my theory anyway, and I'm sticking to it. Going down to pour beer 2 of 5 for tonight.
 

Michael
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Username: Hoppop

Post Number: 728
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 65.82.104.120
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

>>>Since when is 5 b**rs considered a binge?>>

http://www.drinkingandyou.com/site/uk/biggy.htm

Depends on where you live...see the link...maximum recommended by each countries Health Organizations....

Austrailia - 4 per day (men)
Canada - 7 per WEEK (men)
France - 5 per day (men)
US - 2 per day (men)
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 4058
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm glad to see I'm doing my part to keep up the long tradition of Canadian binge drinking. Of course at about 10 beers per week I'm a small-timer.
 

Michael
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Username: Hoppop

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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, Bill...I'm a Frenchman living in North Carolina!
 

PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 1601
Registered: 04-2002
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I must be 2.5 frenchmen. This really explains a lot.

PTA
Water separates the people of the world, beer unites them.
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn...middle ages. Are they referring to a historical period or my age?
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

Post Number: 323
Registered: 03-2005
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Damn PTA! consider changing your handle from "PTA" to "FNP"
 

PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 1604
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FNP = Friendly Nice Person? , Furry Nocturnal Preditor? , Fast kNuckleball Pitcher?, Funny Not Political?

PTA
Water separates the people of the world, beer unites them.
 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

Post Number: 325
Registered: 03-2005
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Feeling No Pain



or ... well... in deference to tranquil liza I will forego that one.

T