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Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 1060
Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A few months ago I made a big IPA with a rather large FWH addition. It was discussed in this thread: http://hbd.org/discus/messages/26895/33406.html?1131474212
My goal was to produce a beer that got all of its bitterness from a flavor hop addition.

A couple months have passed and the beer has been able to age properly. I am sitting back imbibing said beer right now. I have to say this beer is phenomenal! Does it have hop flavor? YES! You really can't taste anything but hops. Despite the calculated 121 IBUs it really doesn't have a harsh bitterness, but the hop flavor is overpowering.

THIS IS A DAMN GOOD BEER! There is something about an overabundance of hop flavor that just sets off a ton of endorphins.

I will be making this beer again.
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

Beee-yah
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 07-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

120 IBU would make me hop overboard.
 

Joakim Ruud
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Geoff, didn't all those hops in the BK suck up most of the wort? :-)

Anyway, about the FWH that I mentioned trying with an APA in that thread: The APA is very good. But the hop flavour is just not there, and aroma is too low. I will not FWH again.

I have another APA in primary now. Regular flavour and flame-out hops, and a bag of dry hops. Everything else is identical. Looking forward to doing a side-by-side comparison!

Joakim
 

John Ferens
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Holy cow! Did I read that right, 24 ounces?! You must buy your hops in bulk, were I to buy that much at our LHBS, it would likely be in the neighborhood of $30 for two pounds (cheaper to buy by the pound at that quantity). Where do you get your hops Geoff?

John.}
 

Hophead
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recall the picture of the hops in the kettle was inspiring...

The most I've used for FWHing is in the 8-12 oz range, as I anticipate the difference in flavor between that and double that would not be worth the loss of wort... :-)

Bulk hops are very inexpensive by the pound from places such as freshops and hopsdirect (NAYYY), but getting them by the ounce at LHBS would be cost prohibitive ('cept maybe for BWTW....oops, sorry, like saying moses in egypt)...
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've now made 3 different batches that used nothing but FWH and dry hops. I think that's gonna become my standard method for IPAs. I really LOVE that enormous hop flavor.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 1061
Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Geoff, didn't all those hops in the BK suck up most of the wort?"

They did soak up a lot, but I planned on a 12 gallon batch and ended up with exactly 10 in the kegs.

"Where do you get your hops Geoff?"

I buy a lot of hops in bulk from both freshops and hopsdirect. I have a vacuum sealer and lots of freezer space. Most of my bulk hops I plan on using for late flavor and aroma additions. I'll buy pellets from LHBS for bittering when my hops start getting old.

"The most I've used for FWHing is in the 8-12 oz range, as I anticipate the difference in flavor between that and double that would not be worth the loss of wort..."


You are right, there has to be a point of diminishing returns...but damn it was fun!
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 1062
Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with you, Denny. This is a wonderful way to make IPA. The brew day just seems so smooth when you don't have to try to balance and time everything. Just throw the hops in the BK before you start. From there the only thing I am concerned with is boiling for more than 60 minutes and hitting my planned SG, which can easily be adjusted by either boiling longer or adding water.
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."