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Scott Manning
Member
Username: Liquidbreaddiet
Post Number: 172
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 12.18.36.40
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:24 pm: | 
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I know that ABC has been discussed a lot here lately - but i have one more question concerning juice. My local mill is closed for the season so I cannot get fresh cider. I noted that any apple juice can be used if it does not have perservatives in it which brings me to this question. The only juice I have been able to find that says only Apple Juice on the label is a generic brand from the local megalo mart. all others have potasium sorbate or ascorbic acid added to them. Should i trust that this store brand is truly apple juice and nothing else? Or should I make a treck to the nearest Whole Foods (1.5 hours away) and find some organic stuff?
Second part - at the same local megalo mart they had Malta Goya for 15 cents a bottle. I assumed this was a good deal and bought a case. Never using it before - do i just pitch yeast into my flask and pour a bottle over it? |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 4496
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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The generic apple juice should work if it is preservative-free. They are supposed to indicate on the label if preservatives are used (a few people are allergic).
Yes, you can use Malta Goya as-is for the starter. I usually add about 25 percent water to reduce the gravity. Give the starter a thorough shaking to add oxygen. |
Scott Manning
Member
Username: Liquidbreaddiet
Post Number: 174
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 12.18.36.40
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:32 pm: |
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Bill on the label it simply said Apple Juice. So I am guessing it is preservative free. Is apple juice or cider better when making the ABC? |
Paul Edwards
Advanced Member
Username: Pedwards
Post Number: 910
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.67.116
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:53 pm: |
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frozen apple juice concentrate is usually free of preservatives.
I can buy Seneca brand Granny Smith concentrate at my grocery. I've used it to add acidity to hard cider |
Scott Manning
Member
Username: Liquidbreaddiet
Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 12.18.36.40
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:00 pm: |
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Paul - there were 4 different brands of apple juice in the concentrate isle - all of them had ascorbic acid (vitamin c) added for freshness. Is this considered a bad preservative? |
Doug Pescatore
Senior Member
Username: Doug_p
Post Number: 1750
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 141.232.1.1
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:14 pm: |
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Vitamin C is a good thing. |
Scott Manning
Member
Username: Liquidbreaddiet
Post Number: 176
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 12.18.36.40
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:35 pm: |
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Vitamin C is good for you - but will it hinder my fermetables? |
Doug Pescatore
Senior Member
Username: Doug_p
Post Number: 1751
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 141.232.1.1
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:38 pm: |
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Didn't stop mine..... |
Paul Edwards
Advanced Member
Username: Pedwards
Post Number: 911
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.229.27.208
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 04:08 pm: |
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Mine either. It's added as an anti-oxidant. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 4497
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 04:24 pm: |
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Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an antioxidant, not a preservative. Don't worry about it. |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 650
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.98.80.132
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 04:50 pm: |
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In most grocery stores you should be able to find Mott's apple juice. Some of the local places just had a bogo sale on it. |
Scott Manning
Member
Username: Liquidbreaddiet
Post Number: 178
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 12.18.36.40
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 06:57 pm: |
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Malta goya question time - when stepping up a starter - do you all just pour another bottle diluted with 25% spring water into the earlimyer flask? |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 4500
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 08:00 pm: |
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Scott, the optimum increase in volume for starters is 8-10 times. There is no reason you couldn't use additional Malta Goya. |
Wayne Faris
Junior Member
Username: Wayne
Post Number: 51
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 68.113.177.79
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 03:11 am: |
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There are a number of Malta brands out there. I use Malta India. Don't know about the Goya brand, but the India brand is carbonated. It takes quite a bit of shaking/stirring to decarbonate it and get some O2 in it. I use a stirplate, so it's not a problem, but without one, be prepared to work on it a bit.
BTW 15 cents a bottle is a great deal, it's expensive as beer around here.
Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company
http://www.lincolnlagers.com/
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