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michael atkins
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Post Number: 343
Registered: 11-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Last October I made an all Amarillo Pale Ale beer just to help me define the taste profile of this special hop variety.

Amarillo for bittering, flavor, aroma, and dry hop. Just curious how many of you do this and your comments. I suspect that this hop in combination with almost any other hop variety is a virtual "hop perfection", lock.

However, my initial impression is I like the Hop but it does not compare with dual hop additions such as (Hallertauer, and Tettnang), or (Mt. Hood and Columbus) or several other combinations (you name it).

Your comments please.
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tim roth
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've done several single hop beers.
My all Columbus pale ale is by far my favorite.
I've also done single hop pale ales with;
Challenger
Centennial (homegrown)
Chinook
and Cascade.
Great way to learn about the hops! cheers, tim
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brett matthews
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Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been thinking of brewing a pale ale using all Tettnang or Hallertau. I know its not traditional but has anyone done anything with these hops wholly and solely?
 

jeff wright
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 07-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, many of my brews are single hop variety.
My porterhouse, redjacket and American amber ales are all Willamette. My Scotch ale is all Fuggles. I guess I like that flavor--cause they're sort of interchangeable.

brew on,
jeff
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a "summer ale" recipe that is single-malt (Maris Otter) and single-hop (Crystal). I'm quite fond of it.
 

Beertracker
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I brew a Hop Harvest ESB every Fall using homegrown Fuggles and serve it via beer engine. I have fun brewing it and the natives don't seem to mind drinking it!
CHEERS! Beertracker

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Skotrat
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Post Number: 1726
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Now,

I do quite a few single hop brews. Lately my favorite recipe is this one:

http://www.skotrat.com/skot/equipment/Pmash_Recipes/East_Kingston_India_Pale_Ale .html

I really enjoy the beer.

-Scott
 

Paul Hayslett
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've made several Amarillo-only pales and IPAs and an all-Crystal ESB. I'd make any of them again in a minute. And when I am aiming for little or no hop presence, like in a hefe or roggenbier, I tend to go with just a single variety of something noble.

I can vouch for tim's all-Columbus pale. Excellent stuff.
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Skotrat
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Amarillo is definitely a hope that can stand by itself in a brew and make that brew exceptional.

It is a very flavorful and aroma filled hop.
 

davidw
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've got an IIPA on tap right now that is 100% Fawcetts Optic and Simcoe hops for bittering, flavour, and aroma.

It totally kicks ass.

I also have an amber ale recipe, a la Brutal Bitter, that is 100% Crystal hops. Excellent beer.

(Message edited by davidw on January 31, 2006)
 

Doug Pescatore
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Funny how tastes are different. I did an all Crystal pilsner that I didn't like. Very drinkable beer but never to be repeated at my house. I met a fellow homebrewer at my wife's 20 year reunion and he presented me with a beer that I almost instantly recognized it as some sort of all Crystal hop brew (didn't really like it). He proudly told me it was a 100% crystal hops lager.

My American reds are 100% Willamette. Big on the crystal malt and big on the 30 minute addition. Two great tastes that go great together.

-Doug
 

Denny Conn
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I find that some single malt and/or single hop brews can lack some depth and complexity, but others are great. I think it just depends on the particular ingredients you pick. For instance, I made an IPA with no hop additions other than a huge does of Columbus FWH and Columbus dry hops. I love it.
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Drew Pattison
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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I made an all Saaz pale ale once. Haven't made that one again. I'm not sure I've made any beer with saaz since then...
 

Pete Mazurowski
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I've done all-Amarillo & all-Glacier pales in the past, and have an all-Simcoe in primary right now. I'd like to try some form of all-Willamette brew in the future, too. I agree it's a great way to nail down your perceptions of a particular variety.
 

davidw
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What was your thoughts on the Glacier, Pete?

Just snagged a couple pounds of them and am planning a pale ale, myself.
 

Hophead
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Drew, I share you sentiment on saaz. I typically only use them for bittering now just to use them up...

I've been making an all amarillo pale for a few years now, great stuff. Just got glacier (and vanguard) too, let us know Pete!
 

Pete Mazurowski
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My experience is that they make a hell of a flavor and aroma hop. They're very citrusy, but different than the other C-hops. It makes for a nice change, and seems like it should blend very well with other domestic varieties.

The downside is they don't pack much of a punch for bittering. The recipe was around 53 IBU's, but tastes more like around 30. I've heard them described as being a really "smooth" bittering hop, but to me they just get lost. Next time I'll use some Columbus, Centennial or the like for bittering.
 

Ken Anderson
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My last lager was all Liberty, and a big hit. I'm making it again, except changing the base malt brand and yeast. I'm sticking with the all-Liberty though, because I was that pleased with it.

Ken
 

Denny Conn
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I make all my alts with all Spalt or Mt. Hood, and often do lagers with all Spalt or Mt. Hood.
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davidw
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Duh, where was my head.

Ditto what Denny says for alts.

I also do a 100% Mt. Hood Cream ale.
 

Derric
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I recently made an all East Kent Goldings pale ale that I like a lot. (I think it is my favorite pale ale thus far).

I made the same pale ale recipe at the same time with all Saaz that I don't like as much.

I do like all Saaz Pils, however.

(First time poster, long time lurker).
 

Steven Edward Haun
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I've made an all sterling dunkel that turned out well. I will be making an all sterling pils this spring.
 

damon
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I see hops like a rack of dozens of good spices, it all about the varied combinations and ratios, though sometimes one damn good hop is all you need. Amarillo is definitely one.
 

Randy McCord
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I agree with the all Amarillo comments. I've also done some with all Centennial that I really like.

One of my favorites uses both. I think they work very well together.
 

Bob Girolamo
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I made a Pale Ale with all Horizon hops and wasn't too fond of it. I'll use the rest of my Horizons for bittering only.
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Randy McCord
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I've never made one with all Horizons, but I do like Horizons for bittering. The Horizons smell wonderful in the bag though.
 

MJR
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At a friend and fellow brewer's house tonight, I tasted an all-Amarillo, hoppy Scotch ale (style guidelines be damned!) and an all-Hallertau IIPA that were fantastic.

Single hopped beers rock. I think I see an all Amarillo or Columbus APA in my future...
 

George Schmidt
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I make LOTS of single hop beers. I'd say that most of them are single hop, actually. I'm very fond of amarillo pale ales and I've made the same grainbill with simcoe, glacier, horizon, centennial, and crystal. Amarillo is my favorite by far, followed by crystal. Alts are all spalt. Lagers are usually all liberty or crystal. Porters, stouts, and browns are all willamette.

Come to think of it, the only time I use multiple hops are in English bitters or when I use somebody else's recipe. Anything I've created myself almost invariably uses a single hop.
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Kurt Weiser
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George,

What does your standard APA grain bill look like? What gravity do you shoot for?
 

Josh Johnson
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My favorite IPA is Bell's Two Hearted Ale.

My wife's favorite IPA is Founder's Centennial Ale.

Both use centennials exclusively.

Can you guess which hop we have growing in our backyard?
 

George Schmidt
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Kurt,

1/2 lb Caramunich
1/2 lb carapils
1/4 lb Belgian aromatic
enough American 2-row pale ale malt to make 1.045 OG.
Bittering is relatively low too, around 35 IBU's
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ~~Robert A. Heinlein: The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
 

Marty Michael
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I am brewing an AG one hop beer this weekend that I designed not long ago. I guess that it is one that you might expect to be one hop though as it is a california common (oh no , cant use the word steam cause of anchor steam) and the only existing commercial example is Anchor Steam and it uses only Northtern Brewer Hops. Ill let you know how it turns out. I actually am curious myself. I have not had an anchor steam for a while, but I dont remember being impressed with it. That being said, I am fairly sure that Anchor Steam is nowhere near as good as the style could be (would be kind of like judging all lagers by tasting Yuengling) and my basement is at 62 degress farenheit right now. I am using hop plugs for all the flavoring and aroma additions to help accent the Northern Brewer Hops flavor and aroma.

Also, the sly fox brewery near me has featured several one hop IPA's and the Simcoe got great ratings on the ratebeer site. Unfortunately, I did not get the chance to try any of it...