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Pascal Desbiens
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Username: Aumaitrebrasseur

Post Number: 29
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 66.130.39.3
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi guys!

I received my Beergun today and before giving it a try, i wanted to verify if someone already tried it... Just don't want to be deceived if it doesn't work!!

Waiting for your comments!
 

jeff wright
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Username: Barly

Post Number: 133
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 67.186.13.180
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pascal,
I don't have one, but I believe I've heard very favorable reports on them here and elsewhere.

brew on, or should it be bottle on,
jeff
 

JimTanguay
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Username: Pizzaman

Post Number: 538
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 206.63.252.209
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

love it! easy to use and clean. I used a 2nd Co2 tank so I didn't have to split the gas line on my fridge. Have had bottles over a month now and carbonation is still fine
 

Jim Smith
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Username: Yajsmith

Post Number: 38
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 24.167.182.59
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Easiest fill I have ever had. A couple of my club members have borrowed mine also and everyone who has used it raves about it.
 

George Schmidt
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Username: Gschmidt

Post Number: 673
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 69.220.130.11
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The perfect bottler. I have a few bottles left from my first try after buying it the month they became available. That was, what October? Opened one Tuesday and it was perfectly carbed w/ no oxidation.
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ~~Robert A. Heinlein: The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
 

Chris Vejnovich
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Username: Cjv85vmax

Post Number: 410
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 139.55.239.67
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can't comment on oxidation. But I just used mine the other day with a 2nd CO2 tank as well and I was very impressed. I had a cheap CP Filler and I gave up on that unit after the 2nd time that I used it. The Beer Gun is the real deal!!!!!

This review comes from a guy who at first thought the Beer Gun just looked like an over priced option for just putting your bottling wand in a picnic tap and filling bottles that way. I very much am willing to eat that statement now. The Beer Gun is well worth the money. BTW, I am in NO WAY associated with the makers or marketers of the Beer Gun. I am just a very satisfied customer!!
 

Pascal Desbiens
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Username: Aumaitrebrasseur

Post Number: 30
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 66.130.39.3
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, i guess i will be pleased with my new toy! Glad to see that this thing is working for somebody else!

Cool! Thanks!
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 939
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.31.102
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I picked one up a few weeks ago. It was extremely easy to use and to clean.

One thing I did was to fill a gallon glass jug with StarSan solution to hold the gun while capping the bottle that was just filled. This was more stable than using a pitcher, and the gun was submerged all the way up to the trigger.

I filled some 12 oz bottles and few 750 ml bottles. I'll let some of them sit at cellar temps for a couple of months to seee what, if any, oxidation problems might develop.
 

scott jackson
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Username: Kroc

Post Number: 219
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 67.135.167.194
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For those of you that have "the gun" maybe you can explain something to me. Does it have a second trigger and tube for the CO2 "purge"? If not, how does that part work?

From the descriptions I assume this is the case put I can't tell form the pirctures I have seen.
 

Chris Vejnovich
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Username: Cjv85vmax

Post Number: 412
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 198.203.245.8
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, it has a second trigger. It is a spring loaded brass valve of some sort. I call it the hot botton as it is full on flow of CO2 as soon as you push in the button.
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 943
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.31.102
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hit the "hot button" (good name, Chris) for a few seconds after putting the barrel of the beer gun into the bottle, then fill the bottle. After filling, I have a cap in my left hand, and the beer gun in my right. After pulling the gun out, I hit the "hot button" to blast a little CO2 into the headspace (and create a little foam), then slide the cap over the bottle top, capping over the foam.

I then set the gun into the jug of sanitizer, and then crimp the cap. I'm sure some bit of oxygen still remains in the headspace, but hopefully not enough to cause any noticeable problems.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 2438
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 216.215.203.195
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am wondering if the CO2 valve is really necessary. I see the theory and all that, but the only air to be of concern is in the head space left after the fill and a good portion of this is filled with the air sucked in from the displacement of the stem. The foam generated by the turbulence of the fill should be very rich in CO2 which should displace a lot of the air in the head space. Of course the same displacement is seen in counter pressure fillers as well.

( A bone to the "Pimping Nazis") I wonder how Phil's Philler would work being fed from a keg through a very long small diameter hose. Very little stem displacement coupled with the normal foaming might be nice.

Dan

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Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 944
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.31.102
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, I got very little to no foam from the turbulence of the fill using the beer gun. It is extremely quiescent. My bottles were chilled to the same temp as the beer (about 34 deg F), and I filled using 10 psi pressure on the keg (down from the 12 or so I usually serve at.

The CO2 button is used to create the foam after filling.
 

ScottDeW
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Username: Scott

Post Number: 422
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 63.174.45.1
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I used mine for the first time a few days ago. I had planned on bottling a couple of beers for competition and had so much fun with the new toy I ended up bottling the whole keg. Beats the heck out of the broken racking cane in the cobra tap trick.

The bottles I used were room temperature; I used about 8 psi. I had expected some foaming due to the warm bottles but that did not seem to be an issue.

I've only three complaints but take these as small as I generally have a favorable impression of the device.

1. Expense. It seems expensive for what you get. Keep in mind I bought one so take this as a complaint from a hypocrite.

2. Rubber foot. My LHBS guy (DeFalco's in Houston) was kind enough to give me a second foot. Seems these things get beaten up pretty easily and without it the apparatus is worthless.

3. Extra fittings are not included. You can't use the thing out of the box without procuring some extra stuff.

Anyone else have an issue with the metal clip that holds the rubber foot rusting?
Scott
http://texanbrew.com
 

Chris Vejnovich
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Username: Cjv85vmax

Post Number: 413
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 198.203.245.8
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I have only used once, so no problems with the rubber foot yet. The instructions do say to be careful with the rubber foot as it can tear. As far as the connections go, I had most of the stuff needed except for the 1-2" NPT to 1/2" flare fitting. Blichmann sells kit for 22.00 bucks that has all the exta fittings you need plus gas line. But I had all the stuff I needed sitting around so I just went to Ace Hardware and bought the brass adapter for 50 cents.
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 945
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.31.102
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mine came with the brass NPT to flare fitting. Mebbe the LHBS threw one into the box. I had the extra flare fittings and liquid QD sitting around in the spare parts bin.

I can see where the rubber foot might need replacing. I'll probably get an extra one from the LHBS.

The metal clip for the rubber foot on mine looks to be stainless. The instructions that came with the beer gun say it is.
 

Bill Moore
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Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 437
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 72.147.144.243
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I currently use a piece of racking tube stuck in a cobra tap on a 5' piece of 3/16 beer line. The racking tube has a stopper on it that seals against the bottle top that I crack to release the pressure as the bottle fills. I drop the keg pressure down to around 2-3 psi when doing all of this. Most of the time, I don't even have to seal the cork against the bottle to not have foaming problems.
Here's what I'm struggling with. How is what I'm doing any different than the Beergun with 10' of beer line and no counter pressure with the keg at a higher pressure? Granted, I'm not purging with CO2. But how does it really differ in it's method for filling the bottle.
 

Chris Vejnovich
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Username: Cjv85vmax

Post Number: 414
Registered: 06-2003
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill,

I used to fill my bottles similar to the way you describe sans the stopper. I filled about a 18 pack of bottles with the bottling wand in picnic tap and by six months out they had noticable oxygenation and infection. So, I guess only time will tell if using the Beer Gun is better. But I really think that the Beer Gun is a better option. And the Beer Gun is much better than some of the cheap CP fillers out there IMHO.