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Joakim Ruud
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Username: Joques

Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 84.209.98.134
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hiya!

Got my Star San from Morebeer now, and am pretty stoked to start using it. Verrrry handy dosage chamber on the bottle, BTW!

Anyway, when I ripped the tape off the cap, I also tore away the part of the label where it says how much to use. I think I remember that proper dosage is 1 ounce per 5 gallons, is that correct?

Ok, now to the real question: How much Star San in your beer is too much? I mean, if you use it in your primary bucket, your bottling bucket, to clean you caps and your racking hose, and all without rinsing, it will add up. At what point will you experience adverse effects, apart from flavour? For instance, let's say that it kills off a small part of your yeast. At what point does it kill so much yeast that you get head retention problems? (I think it was Fredrik who posted that too much yeast innards in your beer is bad for head retention.)

Also, I'm thinking of priming my racking hose with star san at the regular dilution. The thing is, when you rack, a small portion of the priming liquid in the hose always falls back into the bucket, adding to my question:

How much Star San is too much? Can I do all this and not worry about it?

Joakim, worrywort

(edited for spelling and clarifications)

(Message edited by joques on February 19, 2006)
 

robert rulmyr
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RDWHAHB. Also, Your dilution/dosage is correct I think. I've been making up a one gallon batch with one teaspoon of SS for several years now. Actually 100 oz. water + 1 tsp. SS.
 

Joakim Ruud
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Post Number: 174
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RDWHAHB...? Please translate :-)
 

Bill Moore
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Post Number: 439
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relax, Don't Worry, Have A Homebrew
 

Jeff Preston
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One ounce per 5 gallons is the correct dilution. Perfectly safe to use at that concentration and no rinsing . Been using it myself for years now.
 

ELK
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only problem and blessing is the foam. Great for surface contact time but sometimes when I fill a carboy or yeast starter jug with wort the foam overflows.. We call this The "starsan Snake". I use it in airlocks for shorter periods of time but not on real violent shindigs.
 

Anil Tyson
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One ounce per 5 gallons is the correct dilution, but I regularly us 3/4 ounce per 5 gallons with no ill effects.

I forget how much SS has to be in solution before there is a perceptable (off)flavor, but I think it is pretty high... two pints?

Howerver, I have it touching everything up till wort/beer gets put in. I encourage splashing, as this will leave the SS snake of foam, as mentioned... I love it for bottling.
 

Joakim Ruud
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Post Number: 176
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha, that quote is from Papazian, isn't it? :-)

Ok, I will use it. I tasted the diluted sanitizing liquid, and it barely tasted of anything. Much less that Iodophor. So I wasn't worried about flavours, I was thinking there might be other negative effects from too much Star San in the beer :-)

Joakim
 

Miker
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you're really worried about it, then rinse with tap water. If the main reason you switched to Star San was because you wanted a no-rinse sanitizer then this would defeat the purpose, of course, but there isn't anything in most regular water that will cause problems.
 

John Thompson
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I never make up a full 5 gallons as Robert mentions. I use 1/4 oz per 1.25 gallons. Your bottle of Star San will last a lot longer. Some even reuse it. But, I make up a new solution every session.
 

Vance Barnes
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I like the snake of foam coming out of a carboy or keg when racking. You can be confident that nothing is falling out of the air into the container.

1 oz is 2 TBS. I mix 2.5 gal and 1 TBS at a time. I keep it in a bucket with a lid on it and use it for a few months. I've checked the pH when it starts to get milky looking and it was 3. Based on that I think the visual test is a good one. Think I checked the pH on a fresh batch and it was 2.5.

Just be careful with the concentrate. Don't ever get it on a laminate countertop. Luckily my laminate countertop was in the basement and not the kitchen.