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Bill Moore
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Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 452
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 65.80.77.67
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well I waited 3 days for a 1 month expired tube of WL East Coast Ale to get going and nothings happened.

Just split off 1/2 the starter wort into another container and pitched some slurry (I don't even know what it is 'cause I didn't label it).

If this doesn't get going, I'll pitch some 1 month old slurry when I brew this weekend.

This is the first WL tube I haven't gotten going within 24 hrs in a starter and I have used some that were 4+ months expired.

This just reaffirms the benefit of using starters with pitchable tubes.
 

Beerboy AKA The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member
Username: Matfink

Post Number: 1039
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 217.44.52.121
Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

chances are it will start, it 's just being shy.
 

Bill Moore
Intermediate Member
Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 455
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 72.147.144.18
Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well, just last night it finally got going.
4 days it took.
Given how long it was, I'm not sure I want to use it.
I'll give it a sniff and taste and decide tomorrow.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 4913
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If it doesn't smell or taste "off" (a little yeast bite is not a problem), the starter will be just fine. It can take a while for old yeast to wake up. I've used two-year-old vials (they were kept refrigerated) successfully.
 

Jim Smith
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Username: Hey_newt

Post Number: 43
Registered: 07-2004
Posted From: 207.218.175.17
Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm with Bill. I've made starters with two year old yeast vials before with no problem. Sometimes they started slow but always worked OK in the main ferment.
 

Bill Moore
Intermediate Member
Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 456
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 72.147.144.18
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well, both the starter from the slurry and the vial seem to have a slight "twang" to them.
I'm starting to think both are now infected with something that is souring them.
I might just end up dumping them both and using the English ale slurry from my most recent batch.
I hate the thought of losing 10gal.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 4926
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.239.69
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't worry about the "twang," which could well be from the extract used for the starter, nor about a yeasty flavor in the starter. After all, the same criticisms are often made about very recently fermented beer. I would be concerned only if the starter was noticeably sour or had a quality that was distinctly different from the known characteristics of that yeast strain.
 

Bill Moore
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Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 457
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 72.147.144.18
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wish I had more experience in discriminating the different flavors.
Having just spent 6 hrs brewing the batch, I'm not wanting to lose the whole thing.
Maybe I'll pitch the starter into only 5gal and see what happens.
 

Bill Moore
Intermediate Member
Username: Bill_beerman

Post Number: 458
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 72.147.144.18
Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wimped out. I used my other slurry.
Next time I'll taste a starter so I have a better point of reference.