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Anthony Catencamp
Junior Member Username: Reddog
Post Number: 27 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 66.222.126.57
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 06:36 pm: |
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I've got a Sierra Nevada recipe that I've made and enjoyed five times in the past, but that was before I went to all grain brewing. My question is, how much two row MO do I need to use in place of Moravian dry malt extract? I got this from St. Pat's before the wine only sales began. The original recipe is: 8 lbs DME 1 lb Crystal 40 1 oz Cascade 60 min. 1 oz Cascade 30 min. 1/2 oz Cascade 15 1/2 oz Cascade at flameout I would also like to try FWH. Any suggestions as to amount of Cascades for this recipe? Thanks for any help. Anthony |
   
Dan Listermann
Senior Member Username: Listermann
Post Number: 3153 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 216.23.59.245
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 06:50 pm: |
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8 pounds of DME is worth 360 points ( 8 * 45 = 360 ). For a biginner al grain brewer. I would expect about 25 points per pound per gallon so you should need about 14.4 pounds. This may be difficult in a five gallon mash tun so maybe you should have some DME around to top things off. Dan --This space is again being left intentionally blank.-
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Denny Conn
Senior Member Username: Denny
Post Number: 5766 Registered: 01-2001 Posted From: 140.211.82.4
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 07:17 pm: |
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Use the 15 and/or 30 min. hops as FWH. LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Dave Coppes
New Member Username: Pale_dave
Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 24.63.80.108
| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Denny - I recently switched to all-grain after brewing grain/extract for years (once I did it, I wondered why it took me so long!) I've been reading a lot and found the following on recipe conversion in a book called The Homebrewers Recipe Guide: Extract to all-grain LME x 1.23 = Pale Malt DME x 1.45 = Pale Malt Liquid Wheat Extract x 1.07 = Wheat Malt Unfortunately, I didn't note what brewery efficieny this was based on. Using this conversion factor and your recipe, the result is 11.6 lbs of Pale Malt. This is obviously less than Dan suggested and must be based on a higher efficiency. My first batch (Pale Dave Ale) had an efficiency of 86% (figured using ProMash) and my second (a German Lager, still in the fridge) 75%. I'm guessing I got a lower percentage because of the Lager Malt which is less modified? I converted my recipes by using the formulas above. I then punched them into ProMash and played with grain quantity and efficiencies so I would come close to hitting my target OG. I would think your mash schedule could have a big effect on the final outcome (ie. matching your extract recipe). Sorry this reply so long. I've been skulking for a couple of weeks and finally decided to jump in... |
   
Dave Coppes
New Member Username: Pale_dave
Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 24.63.80.108
| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 12:26 pm: |
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See that - first post and I messed up already. I meant to address that to Anthony |
   
Anthony Catencamp
Junior Member Username: Reddog
Post Number: 28 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 66.222.126.209
| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Thanks guys for all of your help. I will go with 28 lbs of grain (10 gal. batch). I have plenty of space in my 70 qt. cooler for this recipe. |
   
Paul Erbe
Advanced Member Username: Perbe
Post Number: 652 Registered: 05-2001 Posted From: 12.27.22.67
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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I would think your mash schedule could have a big effect on the final outcome (ie. matching your extract recipe). You may want to add 2-5% carapils to give your clone a little body. I would expect the DME you are using probably had some in it original grain bill. |