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Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1514
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 68.4.202.69
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I want to make a serving fridge that will hold at least 6 cornies (I'll be pressurizing all of them, but only serving from 4). I can buy a 5 year old upright fridge with the freezer on the bottom for about the same as a discontinued new chest freezer from HD. The freezer is deep enough to put cornies in without a collar. Space is a premium.

Here are the considerations:

The fridge:
* Will only hold 6 cornies with a little room for a few bottles or yeast
* Takes up 9 sq ft plus the faucets hanging out the front.
* It's used - 5 years old
* Has a large freezer - but I only store hops in the freezer
* I won't need a separate temperature controller
* I'll only need to buy a drip tray

The Freezer:
* It's a new Maytag
* It will hold 6 cornies easy, with room for lots of bottles and yeast
* No freezer for hop storage
* It takes up 8 sq ft of floor space
* I'll need to buy a tower and drip tray
* I'll need to use my spare Ranco to control the temperature

OK, so what do you all think I should do?
 

Mark Tigges
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Username: Mtigges

Post Number: 404
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 66.38.134.9
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fridge.
 

PaulK
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Username: Paulk

Post Number: 495
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Freezer.
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1515
Registered: 01-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You guys are a lot of help!
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 355
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 72.4.22.214
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just save yourself the difficulty of deciding and get both . . .
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1516
Registered: 01-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Barely room for one.

I just realized I need to buy faucets with towers. I don't need faucets, and the cheapest 4 faucet tower I can find is $315! Can I buy just the tower somewhere?
 

dhacker
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Post Number: 356
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Surely a guy who has friends who will build hop stoppers can get them to build a draft tower for a keg or two o' brew.
 

Little Dipper
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Username: Littledipper

Post Number: 105
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 206.114.61.199
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd buy the freezer and build a collar - even though you don't need the extra height. Saves putting holes in a new freezer and if anything happens in the future, you've still got a freezer with no holes to use or sell.
 

Connie
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Username: Connie

Post Number: 812
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Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with Little Dipper, but that's also the arrangement that I use. No tower on a freezer.
 

Hophead
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Post Number: 2240
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Freezer, absolutely.
 

Drew Pattison
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Username: Droopy

Post Number: 137
Registered: 06-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I went the freezer/collar route. If your space is limited consider how you would open the freezer with a tower on it.

I integrated a drip tray into the collar with 1/4 plywood hanging down that I poly-urethaned. And I'd do it that way again.

If you're looking for inexpensive towers this is an option: http://www.acumetalfab.com/ I think you need to contact them for pricing.
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1517
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, I bought the freezer yesterday. I'll start putting a collar together.

I have a regulator on my tank with two gauges, and I'm going with 6 secondary regulator/gauges (so I can adjust each keg to a different pressure, and to eliminate the manifold and valves). I'm going to locate my tank on the outside of the freezer, but was considering mounting the secondary regulators on the inside of the collar. Any problems with this??
 

Little Dipper
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

>>I integrated a drip tray into the collar with 1/4 plywood hanging down that I poly-urethaned. And I'd do it that way again.<<

Drew, can you explain how you did this a little more - I'm interested in this idea. How did you build the actual tray - I'm assuming you have some sort of lip around it to prevent beer from running off? I'm too cheap to buy a nice tray and I like the idea of building my own better anyways. Thanks.
 

Drew Pattison
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Username: Droopy

Post Number: 138
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm too cheap to drop $$$ on a stainless drip tray so I built my own. I basically built a rectangular box for the tray with one long side to screw onto the collar. I picked up some gutter guard stuff at the hardware store to act as the screen. There's no drain but it doesn't get too messy. I wipe it out with a baby wipe every once and awhile.

Here's a pic:
 

Drew Pattison
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Username: Droopy

Post Number: 139
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Richard,

I have mine setup similar to what you're saying (tank outside, secondary inside) - I only have one secondary regulator in the fridge though. Works fine.

6 regulators seems a little excessive to me though. Carbonation is not a precise enough science to make 6 necessary IMO. Just not that wide of a range of carbonation across beer styles.

(Message edited by droopy on August 09, 2006)
 

Mike Mayer
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Post Number: 703
Registered: 12-2002
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I also use a freezer with an 8" collar, and it works quite well (holds 8 kegs easily). No extra regulators for me, all three taps see the same pressure. My "drip tray" is about as cheap as cheap can get. Since everything is in my workshop, I just put an old T-shirt on the floor, and wash it every couple of weeks.
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1522
Registered: 01-2004
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I bought the freezer (a 15 cu ft Maytag model) as a closeout at Home Depot, and bought some 2X6 and 1X8 redwood for the collar. I've got the Ventmatic Ultra Flos on order. I'll post pictures when it's finished. It will be a couple weeks before I'll put it into use since I'm leaving town for a week.

I'm thinking about putting some casters under it so I can move it easily.
 

Bill Moore
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 10-2003
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Go with the freezer, and build a collar.
That way you have an intact freezer if you move on to something else.