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Peter Roman
Advanced Member
Username: Lilbordr
Post Number: 857
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 12.2.115.11
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 08:17 pm: | 
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Was cruising ebay looking for 220V GFCI's. I found this. What do you guys thing about this bad boy?
Cheers,
Peter 'the kid' Roman |
Paul Erbe
Advanced Member
Username: Perbe
Post Number: 664
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 12.27.22.67
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 08:27 pm: |
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I think one guy and two girls in a hot tub is just fine. |
dhacker
Intermediate Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 384
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 68.187.16.27
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 08:44 pm: |
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I think you can get something similar at Slowes or Home Disappointment for less bucks . . like around $80 |
Peter Roman
Advanced Member
Username: Lilbordr
Post Number: 858
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 12.2.115.11
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 08:51 pm: |
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Just found a godo deal on 4500W elements.
Cheers,
Peter 'the kid' Roman |
dhacker
Intermediate Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 385
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 70.146.180.227
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 10:11 pm: |
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8 low density elements for $20??
That's a steal!!
Will your conscience allow it?  |
David S
Member
Username: Dsundberg
Post Number: 214
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 71.97.10.128
| | Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 10:24 pm: |
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How will you install the elements into your kettle, welded joints? |
Peter Roman
Advanced Member
Username: Lilbordr
Post Number: 859
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 12.2.115.11
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 03:44 pm: |
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yeah. I'll go the way of the TIG. Silver solder might be a possibility.
Cheers,
Peter 'the kid' Roman |
Vance Barnes
Senior Member
Username: Vancebarnes
Post Number: 2386
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 208.49.148.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 03:58 pm: |
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Don't know about the price but I like the configuration. Use the 220V GFI for your elements and the branch circuit for the pump. |
Paul Muth
Intermediate Member
Username: Pjmuth
Post Number: 255
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 68.210.111.143
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 04:53 pm: |
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Peter,
You might want to look around for that panel.
This one:
Is $79.83 at Lowe's and has room for 4 additional breakers.
GE Spa Panel at Lowe's
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David S
Member
Username: Dsundberg
Post Number: 216
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 71.97.10.128
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:08 am: |
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I could wrong about this, since I'm not looking at the wiring diagram, but I don't think you are really protected with that Ebay device. It looks to me like they have a 120V GFCI driving a contactor. That will protect only one leg. If the other leg of the 240V circuit faults to ground the GFCI won't trip. Just my 2 cents worth. |
dhacker
Intermediate Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 386
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 208.63.163.130
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:24 am: |
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I think it does provide GFCI protection across both branches. It's claim to fame which makes it different than the one at Lowes is the contactor, though I'm not sure how that is a significant benefit. I was at Lowes today and they had both a 50 amp and a 60 amp GE 240v GFCI spa panel, and they were both the same price . . $79.83 |
David S
Member
Username: Dsundberg
Post Number: 217
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 71.97.10.128
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 03:07 am: |
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I had a SPA that incorporated a 120 V GFCI in the panel. It, through other safety devices and thermostats, powered the contactor which switched the main heater on/off. If there was a fault in the 120V branch, the GFCI would trip and shutdown everything, including the main heater contactor. However, a fault on one of the main heater legs to ground would not trip it.
The reason I know this is because the heater element opened up and I had to replace it. When I removed it, I could see that the water had eaten through the heater tube and exposed the heater wires. I'm sure that the corrosion was there long before it actually failed and the GFCI had not tripped. That didn't leave me with a good feeling
Again, this could be wired differently and may work just fine. |
Peter Roman
Advanced Member
Username: Lilbordr
Post Number: 860
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 12.2.115.11
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 01:04 pm: |
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Question regarding 220V elements. Are there 4 wires on them? Leg1, Leg 2, neutral and ground?
Thanks,
Peter 'the kid' Roman |
David S
Member
Username: Dsundberg
Post Number: 220
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 71.97.10.128
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 01:16 pm: |
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The water heater elements I've seen have only 2 connections for L1 and L2. The case (mounting screw or flange) is the grounding point. |
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