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Skotrat
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Post Number: 2227
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Posted on Sunday, October 01, 2006 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alrighty,

Let's see the best of the worst when it comes to home made or commercially available Homebrew products/gadgets
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J. Steinhauer
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Two of the Commercial worst have to be the Turbo Scrubber and the doohicky that you put on the dial of your electric stoveto control temperature.
 

Chumley
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The whirlygig. The holes always scale up and get plugged, so you have to soak it in vinegar about every 3-5 use, and the little stoppers on the ends always get lost. And, the manufacturer had the nerve to tell me to use mechanical pencil erasers when the stoppers got lost.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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one of the worst has to be the CPBF with the auto pressure releas valve on it. A guarnteed face full evey time. I am the proud owne of one, bought from a fallen company of years gone by. Beer from trees.....imagine
Bellybuster Bob
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Steve Anderson
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Phils (Phloating) Phalse Bottom. Lots more trouble than a screen. The false bottom itself is like a starter kit...you have to modify it to ever get it to work right.
Steve Anderson
 

Sand
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In my opinion the fermentap is the worst. I like everyone who bought one now has an expensive carboy drainer.
 

PaulK
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>one of the worst has to be the CPBF with the auto pressure releas valve on it. A guarnteed face full evey time.

I have with an automatic pressure relief and it works perfect.

As for worst gadget, I'd say the auto-siphon. Stupid inner tube always ends up drawing in air.
 

Mike Huss
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As for worst gadget, I'd say the auto-siphon

I have to disagree on that one Paul, I have an auto-siphon and I love it! To each their own...
 

John Thompson
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My auto siphon also works like a charm and has for 5 years. When I first received it, I too was drawing air until I put on smaller diamater hose. In fact I think it may well qualify as one of my BEST gadgets.
 

Bob Wall
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I use my Auto Siphon all the time. works great. In fact I have 2 so I don't have to re-sanitize when transferring two 5 gallon batches. If you use a tight tube and flick it with your finger after you get the siphon going, you will get rid of the air bubble.

As for WORST gadget, I am surprised nobody has mentioned Mr. Beer...
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

ELK
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Also on my second auto siphon at first it leaked air around the plunger seal. So at someones suggestion I took it out and used my fingers to open up the seal diameter. It has worked fine since.. THe old onw got alot of crazing in the outer tube wall and then finally after severl years in took a sharp smack and broke near the outlet bend.. If it leaks near the hose outlet put on a hoseclamp. Worst thing I have are the 3 bottles of Iodine that the LHBS sold me when I was a newbie. one is a monster size:-( what can I do with this stuff?
Rip them lips!
 

dhacker
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Bob,

Rather than considering Mr. Beer as the worst, we may in fact owe it a debt of gratitude for:

A. Introducing the very idea of home brewing to many people. AND . . .

B. Convincing people that there had to be a better way, so that REAL methods could be utilized!!

9 days, 4 hours, 53 minutes, 37 seconds
 

Vance Barnes
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and the doohicky that you put on the dial of your electric stoveto control temperature.

That would be the AutoMasher.

The fermentap is definately up there. I still use the carboy drainer I built for it though. Even if the carboy had the right slope the tiny drain for the yeast was a joke. I think I used mine twice. Glad it wasn't terribly expensive.
 

J. Steinhauer
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There's nothing wrong with the Mr. Beer, if appropriate ingredients and procedures are used to fill it.
 

Dan Listermann
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Chumley: "And, the manufacturer had the nerve to tell me to use mechanical pencil erasers when the stoppers got lost."

Did he not offer to replace the stoppers at no charge, including shipping, to you?

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Dan Listermann
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"Phils (Phloating) Phalse Bottom. Lots more trouble than a screen. The false bottom itself is like a starter kit...you have to modify it to ever get it to work right."

While I am as bad as any guy about instructions, if followed correctly, "Phil's Phalse Bottom" does not float with or without modification. I will be thrilled to answer any questions on this subject.

Dan Listermann

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Mike G.
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You know, when I saw this thread in its infancy, I thought, "this looks like a troll to incite Listermann-bashing", but I gave it the benefit of the doubt.

Sure enough.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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heya Mike...I've yet to see any bashing but yours. Ole Chumster just stated his opinion, of which he is surely entitled.
I do believe you should justify your comment with some standing up for the stove top doohicky, the "treebrew" CPBF, and every other bad gadget that's been mentioned so far...stick up for'em all or stick up for none....

(Message edited by canman on October 03, 2006)
Bellybuster Bob
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Ken Anderson
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Post Number: 1728
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Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good call Mike. It's why this board sucks at times. Either just observe, or become the latest groupie. Nothing else you can do.
 

Mike G.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not sticking up for any aforementioned products, since I haven't tried any of them.

Just making an observation.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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2 out of 19.....looks like a bashing
Bellybuster Bob
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Belly Buster Bob
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bump for fun
Bellybuster Bob
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Dan Listermann
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"You know, when I saw this thread in its infancy, I thought, "this looks like a troll to incite Listermann-bashing", but I gave it the benefit of the doubt."

Mike G. ( Thank you for the G. as opposed to without the G. which would be a weasel) All I can say is Duh. . . ?

Again, thank you.

Daniel E. Listermann

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Belly Buster Bob
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explain????
Bellybuster Bob
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Dan Listermann
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Wait, weasels aren't technically rodents, are they?

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Belly Buster Bob
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Dan, you start your sentences in the middle and work your way to both ends. Come out and say it for Cripes sake. What the hell are you talking about?!
Bellybuster Bob
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Dan Listermann
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BBB:"explain????"

". Come out and say it for Cripes sake. What the hell are you talking about?!"

Need I say more?

Dan

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Patrick C.
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Yes?
 

Steve Sampson
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Post Number: 255
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He said "Duh", meaning he agrees with what Mike G said, it it that complicated?

FWIW, I think the wort wizard, while it is a very novel idea is a bad gadget, its just to much of a pain in the ass to hookup in my opinion. I gave my brother one for christmas 3 years ago, then he gave it back because he didn't want it, and I haven't used it at all.

That stove top automasher thing seems pretty insane also.
 

John Thompson
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hmm. who'd have ever guessed where this thread would go???
 

Ken Anderson
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There have only been a few nibbles so far John.
 

Steve Anderson
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When I listed the Phalse Bottom, I did not even think about it relating to Dan's business. I have never participated in any of the juvenile barbs tossed back and forth by the factions posting on this board. I bought the product. It didn't work well. Other's may have different opinions. Contrary to what Mike G. seems to think, I didn't bash anyone. I bashed a product. I didn't mention Dan nor did say anything bad about his other products (some of which I have used and found to work fine).

Some of you guys just look for to whine about.
Steve Anderson
 

Ken Anderson
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Well, maybe my most useless brewing gadget is the big fancy funnel, with filter screen I bought from...

(speaking in hushed tone...)

ST. PAT'S!

The problem is, the neck doesn't fit in a carboy. So THERE'S a dust collector. Actually, my Mini-Jet filter has about as much dust.

Ken
 

Mike A.
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Hey Ken, I've got a big funnel just collecting dust too. It was definitly a two person job using that thing. Then, I bought a smaller funnel that actually fit the carboy but the screen was so small it clogged too easily.

Anyway, I plan on using it as the bottom of a hopper whenever I get my JSP mill motorized. If you cut off the bottom of a 5-gal bucket it will fit nicely in the top of the funnel. The bottom of the funnel can be trimmed to channel the grains down to the middle of the rollers. My exLHBS had a hopper design like this that worked really well.
 

J. Steinhauer
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As the first responder, I hardly see how this was a bashing session. Paranoia! The stainless steel dome-shaped false bottoms for coolers don't work without modification, either.

You win some you lose some, you know. My Philmill II was an outstanding purchase.

While I've never tried the Automasher, any halfwit can see it is an inherently bad idea.


Cooper's carbonation drops don't fit into swingtop bottles.

Homebrewers using Sinamar ought to just give it up.

Carboy dryers...rather than upside down over a Corny keg.

Carboy wedges...rather than 2x4's.

Gas leak detector!

Plate chiller backflusher!

The most valuable experience (in $$$) to be gained over time in this hobby is figuring out what the ripoffs are.

J. Steinhauer
 

Skotrat
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Gas leak detector!

Brilliant!

That has been added to the "Things to buy" list
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Skotrat
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Just finished my gasleak detector...

One bottle of soapy water...

Total cost a couple bucks...
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Steve Sampson
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"Carboy wedges...rather than 2x4's."

I always fold up a towel, and stick it under the fermenter, works great!
 

Jeff Preston
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It may not be the worst but I think my old PH meter was the biggest waste of money. Good PH strips are much easier and pretty accurate.
 

Richard Nye
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How about those BLC hand pumps instead of a pressurized corny.
 

Pacman
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I have to agree with Jeff Preston... a pH meter was one of the biggest wastes of money i've spent on gadgets... You need to calibrate it before each brew session and with mine, if I didn't remove the batteries between sessions, it would die and I had to replace the batteries... The ColorpHast pH strips work great....
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

Geoff Buschur
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Yeah, my pH meter was garbage too. Definitely go with the high quality strips.

Wort wizard was a waste of $ for me too. It was too hard to incorporate into my system without it spraying back. Not to say it is a bad product, the venturi effect is a proven principle, but it isn't for everyone.

Zymico products weren't for me either. I had better luck rigging my own stuff from the local mega supply. In fact the products never worked as advertised until I came up with my own fixes. Before anyone gets their panties wadded up in their camel toe I will clarify that my problems were specific to items that were designed to hold back liquid at a bulkhead. Keep in mind that I worked for several years on aviation fuel tanks, I know a thing or two about keeping stuff from leaking. The products, as delivered, did not do the job as intended. I was later able to come up with solutions to make them work.

Piss on WRT digital thermometers...well piss on any digital thermometer. Go bi-metal and buy one lab calibrated alcohol or mercury thermometer. Occasionally calibrate your thermometers at working temps.

Almost every piece of equipment I own has been either purchased twice, modified or replaced at least once (except for the ones mention in the "best" thread).

The stingy man ALWAYS pays the most.
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Pacman
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Did Geoff just say to go Bi???
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

Hophead
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Hmmm, I've always just put a stopper under the carboy when transferring. must try 2x4 next, for no apparent reason.

Best ever, ordering "1 pound" of whole hops from hopsdirect and getting an average of 26 oz... sweet.

oops, this is the worst thread. sorry. uh, hmmm, I'll go with the stupid WHIRLY GIG fly sparger apparatus. Many (many, many) moons ago, I can recall checking on that damn thing constantly. Longtime batch sparger...for life... :-)
 

Mike G.
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Sorry if I offended anyone's sensibilities. Just a bit sensitive, I guess. I didn't like where this thread was headed, it seems to be a common occurrence.

The contributors here have a wealth of knowledge and experience unmatched by other boards. However, I get a little tired of the schoolyard antics - would people talk in the same manner in person? I don't think different rules should apply for the internet.
(end whine)

On with the productive exchange of knowledge.
 

Mike Huss
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Before anyone gets their panties wadded up in their camel toe

 

HEU Brewer
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Whirlygig.

Was told that I "needed" this for AG brewing many many years ago

Most expensive useless item I ever purchased
 

Skotrat
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I have to agree that the "Whirlygig" is in the top five of the worst brewing gadgets
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Dan Listermann
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Scott, consider me provoked, LOL!

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Skotrat
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oh go away dan
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Chumley
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>>I guess. I didn't like where this thread was headed, it seems to be a common occurrence.

The common occurrence would seem to be the continual stream of nonsensical drivel by one certain poster. I just wish he would pack up and return to rec.crafts.brewing where he belongs. This board didn't have the "schoolyard antics" three years ago or so, until this turkey showed up.

Bill Pierce started a thread on why the B&V is getting slow. The continual taunts and blitherings of this one poster, would seem to be a significant factor for this.
 

Ken Anderson
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Chumley, isn't that a veiled taunt from you in the 3rd post down???

The question was in regard to gadgets, not customer dissatisfaction with manufacturers, which you seemed to slip into the discussion.
 

Dan Listermann
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Note too that Chumley has thus far failed to respond to my question regarding his post.

Dan

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J. Steinhauer
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When I first joined this board, most of these turkeys were already here. Some noticeably departed for a while.

I wonder a little about the sensitivity around here.

Threads like this are what make this group seem so close knit. If you and your man friends don't spend all of your time ripping on each other, then you are much to intimate with your man friends.

Dan, I can tell, over the years, the haranguing has really damaged your self esteem. You must be eating Prozac like candy.
 

Denny Conn
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It isn't the "one poster" that's the problem as much as the multitude of responses to the "one poster".
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Skotrat
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I found this artwork on ebay today...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Phils-Phittings-Counterflow-Wort-Chiller-Homebrew_W0QQitemZ1 30032815559QQihZ003QQcategoryZ38172QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now that is an interesting looking device
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Patrick C.
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I think most of his cost is in the duct tape...
 

Skotrat
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what is amazing is that there are 4 bids on it and it is up to $31
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Patrick C.
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I wonder if these guys are buying it for the copper?
 

Skotrat
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good point
"Anger is a Gift"
 

HEU Brewer
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Hmmm.....

How about "Clinitest"
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

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Needs more duct tape....

They could probably get more selling it for scrap duct tape I'm sure it works fine but it sure ain't purdy.

Clinitest, and that makes me think of...
BEANO!
 

Ken Anderson
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Username: Ken75

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Northeast Ohio. That's where I live. Hmmm.
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1664
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"Northeast Ohio. That's where I live. Hmmm."

Better run out and get some more duct tape Ken, I think you're getting low.
 

Tom Callen
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Haven't been on here for a while but have a question? Regarding digital themometers, is it worth getting one? I have seen one for around £38.00 (not sure what that is in dollars), quite a bit too pay but I do want to upgrade from my mercury one.
 

HEU Brewer
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$70 or so seems a lot for a thermometer. You should be able to find a dial thermometer for less. Just remember to pick one and use that one. Just like a man with two watches never knows what time it is, a man with two thermometers never knows what temperature it is.
 

Mike A.
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My only complaint with the Wort Wizard is that it makes it harder to use plastic bucket fermenters. They tend to collapse under the pressure.
 

Dan Listermann
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I built a really cool automatic sparge level control that had no moving parts. It relied on a submerged vent tube that would break a vacuum on a sealed HTL when the level got below the tube. It worked great except that it really sucked in the walls of the HLT plastic bucket which threw the control off.

Sorry for the tangent.

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Richard Nye
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I got a used Fluke digital thermometer. I've had it about 6 months and it's built like a BSH (brick house). I think it will last decades. Accurate too (according to my mercury lab thermometer). It comes with a standard thermocouple jack, and I have a 10" SS probe.
 

Denny Conn
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You collapsed a bucket with the Wort Wizard? Man, your water pressure dwarfs mine! I've never had nay trouble at all using it with a bucket.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Mike A.
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Yeah, I have to vent the stopper and return the bucket to it's normal shape a few times during transer. I'm on city water so there's a lot of pressure, it may also have something to do with the inline plate chiller.
 

Chris Colby
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Weasels are not rodents; they are mustelids. Other mustelids inlcude mink, polecats, wolverines, badgers and ferrets. Mustelids are more closely related to other carnivores such as dogs and cats than they are to rodents.


Chris Colby
Bastrop, TX
 

Skotrat
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahhhh Yes...


Weasel: weasel


Rodent: Rat


Anyone have a picture of a Jackass?
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Tim Wi
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Did Geoff just say to go Bi???

Well if you did go Bi, you wouldn't need a little black book, you could just walk around with the white pages under your arm.

T
 

Skotrat
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For the record...

Dan has now chosen to harass me via email...

----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com>
To: skotrat@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:38:22 PM
Subject: Jackass

First, hey Boys!

<anyone>

Consider looking in your family's picture album.

Your Troll,

Dan


Dan please cease emailing me


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Edited to include headers

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Randy McCord
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After reading this thread, I just realized that I am a lucky cheapskate!

I have made nearly all of the pieces of my brewery from advice here and other places over the last 3-4 years.

My worst fabrication was of a fly sparge arm which got scrapped after I started batch sparging.

My best fabrication is my homemade bulkheads and wortwizard, but I guess there's another thread for that.

I'm glad I didn't waste any of my hard earned money on some of the things I don't need.!!!

Good marketing people are sometimes good at what they do............Sometimes.
 

Dan Listermann
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Hey Scott, we are always being told to "take it to the street." I thought an experiment might be interesting. It appears that the experiment failed, doesn't it?

Dan

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Randy McCord
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Take it to the street means ass kickin to me, One on one in the street. It doesn't matter, I've been there before.

By the way Skot! I'm growing my hair to donate it! Thanks for the info!
 

Skotrat
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By the way Skot! I'm growing my hair to donate it! Thanks for the info!

Sweet... Best thing in the world you can do with that hair...

I think that I am doing the same... Haven't got my hair cut since june and I think that I will just let it go the year.
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Dan Listermann
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I am 52 years old and need a hair cut tomorrow.

Dan

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Midwest Brewer
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Now I know why I do not post here anymore...

Add me to the list of the whirlygig being the stupidest piece of HB equipment I have purchased. One stuck mash w/a stout and a bunch of flaked barley and it went into the ziplock bag forever.
- "What this calls for is a really futile and stupid move on somebody's part...and we're just the guys to do it."
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

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MWB, wow!

Dan

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Brad Petit
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Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In a short amount of time, I've seen what seems like dozens of threads like this -- and they all devolve into the same .
just ca
There must be something about the internet that keeps people from conversing and behaving like adults -- civility must not be that much fun.



* I'm 24, and if I treat people the way many of you do when I'm 50, I'll be ashamed of myself. *
 

Tom Callen
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Thanks for the info on thermometers HEU and Richard, I am still not so sure what to go for, did see a cheap dial thermometer for around £6.00 tho, so I am being tempted by that at the mo.
 

dhacker
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Just because I felt compelled to add to the whirly-thing discussion,

The correct spelling is Whirligig . . not Whirlygig!


Now . . let the . . .

5 days, 11 hours, 29 minutes, 53 seconds

(Message edited by dhacker on October 06, 2006)
 

John Thompson
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Registered: 04-2002
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hmm. who'd have ever guessed where this thread would go???
 

Steve Sampson
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"Add me to the list of the whirlygig being the stupidest piece of HB equipment I have purchased. One stuck mash w/a stout and a bunch of flaked barley and it went into the ziplock bag forever."

Huh??? What does a whirligig have to do with your stuck mash? Were you using it as a manifold under the grain bed?
 

John Cote
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My worst brewing purchase was the MacGillicuddy's brewing kilt.

Brewing outside on a cold windy day with that thing was terrible.

Bending over to pick up a carboy, laughing neighbors, police, indecent exposure charges...

I'm never brewing with THAT again!
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1670
Registered: 01-2004
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John, you just created visuals in my mind that I NEVER want to see again!
 

Jim Keaveney
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fragile things and i don't get along. bought a floating thermometer in a pinch and it broke on the first use (inexplicably). Had no luck with the vwr ones either.

bought a wine thief recently for no apparent reason and that seems a complete waste. the ol' turkey baster never let me down.