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Skotrat
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Post Number: 2312
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alrighty...

in the last couple of weeks there was some talk about "Imperial Pilsners" here.

I have had a few: Rogue, Sam Adams etc and I though that those were pretty darn good.

Tonight in atlanta after a long freaking day I bought a 4 pack of Terrapin "All American Imperial Pilsner"

What is the deal with this stuff?

It is in my opinion TERRIBLE!

Has anyone else tried this?

BLECH!

-Scott

(Message edited by skotrat on October 17, 2006)
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 364
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My memory of it was it was more like a hoppy IPA than a pilsener. I don't remember it being TERRIBLE, but then again, I wasn't critiqing it when I had it, and I can be pretty forgiving unless I notice an infection.

Where are you staying? I'll take them off your hands.
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Flobey
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought it sucked, too. Bought a 4 pack, still have 3 in the fridge.
 

ChriSto
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 216.176.226.154
Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I enjoy their Rye PA since it is many times on tap next to BMC at bars around here and their Wake-n-Bake Stout (coffee/oatmeal) is extremely tasty. The Big Hoppy Monster IIRC was just released and is a 100+IBU with lots of American hops. The ImpPils is part of their extreme "Monster Tour" beers that are seasonally released. Have not had one ever, tho. Vance, you tend to know a lot about Spike's beers. Care to chime in?
 

Geoff Buschur
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Post Number: 1270
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you have enjoyed any of the beers at 5 Seasons chances are you had some of Spikes (brewer for Terrapin) beers. They are currently contract brewing out of Maryland, but I think that facility was swallowed up so Terrapin is back in search of a brewery.

They can make good beer and they can make bad beer. I think they are in a good position where they will try something new and see how the market reacts. If people hate it they move on.

My wife picked up a 4-pack of the Imperial Pilsner for me a couple months ago. I drank one and moved the last three to the back of the fridge. Maybe they will taste better in a year or two when I find them.

Their Rye PA is good, but has been a little inconsistent.

Wake-n-Bake was good, but not a standard beer for them. I was lucky enough to taste a special "Wake-n-Bake on Wood" that was a barrel aged, cask conditioned Impy Stout. This was an awesome beer.

Big Hoppy Monster is a solid IPA, I have enjoyed that many times.

Double Rye PA was awful.

Extreme Cream Ale was...well...I don't remember how it was. That memorable.
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

ChriSto
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Username: Christo

Post Number: 108
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Spike has officially left 5 Seasons and is brewing for Zuma now. Incidentally, Terrapin is being bottled by Zuma. Gotta find some Hoppy Monster. It's been about 2 years since I had one of those.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While I liked Rogue's IP better than any others I've tried, I wasn't knocked over by it....
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Vance Barnes
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yea, Big Hoppy Monster has been out for a week or 2. I've never even liked Terrapin's Cream Ale. The Rye is pretty good. I'm not sure if I've ever tried their Imp. pils. I wasn't even impressed with Rouges so I don't think I'd like Terrapin's either.

Skot, try the Big Hoppy Monster. It's an Imperial red ale. Also look for Sweetwater brews. I don't care for their 420 but it's their best seller (can you say Hippie marketing). Their IPA is good and Summer Hummer is a Belgian style wit. They had a good dubbel a few months ago called Dubbel D but I doubt you can find it unless it's old. You should have no problem with a good beer at Summit's tonight. They're pricey though.

Oh yea, Zuma is the old Sweetwater brewery where they're doing Terrapin now. Wonder if the consistency problems are due to swapping systems from MD to Zuma? Couldn't be as bad as when Dogwood released Tree Hugger Pils that was infected and hazy.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It seems like there's a "gotcha" to making an impy pils. You need to really bump up the malt to get the "impy" part of it, but that throws it way out of pils territory, no matter how much you hop it. Could it be that "impy pils" is something that just can't be done? Or at least, done well?
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Skotrat
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Post Number: 2313
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Vance...

Will do... Looks like Flobey and his Homebrew club will be at Summit around 8pm...

So I will most likely be there for sure...

The whole Spike thing makes sense to me now... I did not like the beers brewed at 5 Seasons much either. Makes perfect sense that if it is the same brewer that maybe I just do not like his brewing style...

Who is brewing there now?
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Vance Barnes
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Post Number: 2492
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The "head" brewer at 5 Seasons has always been Glen Sprause who originally designed the brewery back when it was Phoenix. He is more of a lager guy. Spike brewed under him and developed some of his own recipes while there. Glen hasn't done the "hands on" for a while to my knowledge. Makes me wonder who is doing it now?

They should have a good Festbeer on now and their Muenchner (sp?) is always on tap and pretty good. I've had some good Belgian styles there in the past too. I've never been impressed with their Lionheart PA but it's an English PA and I like American ones. Kind of hit and miss with what I like that they brew. The food is usually awsome when I eat there.
 

Bob Wall
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Skot, Say hi to the Covert Hops guys for me. If you can wait till after midnight, I will stop by too. But I think you are gearing up for a late Thursday night?
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

ChriSto
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Post Number: 111
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Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Vance, Based on the latest Ale Street News, I think was where I saw it, it said that Glen is back as the full-time brewer at 5 Seasons.

I think I'm going to see if some Hoppy Monster is at Habersham right now.
 

Skotrat
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Post Number: 2314
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had a great time tonight over at Summit...

The Covert Hops guys are all top notch...

I even met the maker of CRANKENSTEIN!!! Also got to check out one of those mills first hand. Damn... Very very nice stuff. I think that will have to be a purchase in the new year.
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 369
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Funny you mentioned Crankandsteins Skot, I am stopping by Don's house tomorrow on the way to work to pick one up. I got my motor in the mail yesterday and I am ready to start building my stand.


Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

Flobey
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Post Number: 63
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Glad you made it out, Skot. Nice to put a face with the name. And no, you can't go wrong with a Crankandstein. I love mine. Much thanks to Don for helping sponsor the Dixie Cup.
 

Skotrat
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Flobey

I had a great time... Loved the IIPA and the Barley Wine.

Enjoy the Dixie Cup

-Scott
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Vance Barnes
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don takes a lot of pride in the Crankendsteins. I've seen him lay out his parts and compare them to other brands and there is, even to an untrained eye, a lot of difference. Especially with the rollers and knurling. Wish I had know him when I was in the market for a mill years back.
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 370
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just got back from Don's. He has quite the little operation. I bought a triple roller mill from him and he helped me out by flipping through his Grainger catalog so I could write down the correct part numbers of the sheaves I will need.

We also tested my motor. It works. He just happened to have a spare cord laying around. Too bad I had to rush off to work, he could have got some cheap labor out of me. He has some real cool milling machines. I would love to see them in operation. Maybe another time.

Now I have to decide how I want to build my stand.
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

John Baer
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been using the three roller crankenstein for a year now, and it rocks. I love that thing.

JB
 

Skotrat
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Old Sandy Claws may have to bring me one of those for Christmas.
"Anger is a Gift"