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THM
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Username: Thm

Post Number: 52
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 68.54.11.84
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My only LHBS is now chargin' over 70$ before tax per sack. I'd rather support local shops, but refuse to be robbed.

Where can I get the best price on sacks of grain, and are there any brands to avoid?
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7268
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It appears that you live in the Southwest. If you were closer to North Country Malt Supply (in far upsate New York near Montreal and now with a warehouse in Chicago) they would be your best deal.
 

Colby Enck
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Username: Thecheese

Post Number: 424
Registered: 06-2003
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's pretty high. I'd guess the shipping costs are being passed on to you. My LHBS charges a buck a pound.

No matter what price you get the grain for, you're gonna be forking over the $$ for shipping (unless you can pick it up yourself).
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 1655
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get mine from a wholesaler. My LHBS charges about 25 or so for a 25kg sack of grain. I could get it for about 18 or so from a local Micro. But 30 minutes drive away is the wholesaler and hop merchant which sells to all the local breweries and I can get a sack for 13.

So I'd suggest approaching your local micro as a possible source of malt.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7271
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Grain is the one ingredient I can get at reasonable cost. Good domestic two-row malt is available in 25 kg. (55 lb.) bags for $18 CAD (about $16.75 USD or 8.60). I have to drive a little more than an hour, but it's well worth it if I buy several bags.

By the way, in many places malt is not taxable because it's considered a food item.

THM, like you, I normally advocate supporting the LHBS, but I agree there are exceptions. Are you on good terms with any brewpubs or micros in your area?

(Message edited by BillPierce on June 15, 2007)
 

Hophead
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Post Number: 2589
Registered: 03-2002
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

$0.95/lb for marris otter and imported grains in phx; used to be $0.85/lb until a few months ago. no luck with trying to piggy back on a brewpub's grain orders so far.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2788
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 74.120.12.10
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

heya Bill...you mustve been up to Fergus.
We should consider splitting on some bags of Munic, crystal etcetc as other that base malts it's just not worth me buying whole bags.
have you tried thier domestic 6 row??? very dusty but incredible grainyness
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7275
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, Bob, Gilbertson & Page in Fergus seems to be an open secret among the small southern Ontario all-grain homebrewing community. With the only full-service homebrew shop being across the border in Buffalo, and the only real Canadian mail-order supplier all the way (thousands of miles or km) in Saskatoon, it's good to have at least one source of reasonably priced ingredients in the area. The malt is of high quality and they have a good selection apart from their lack of Belgian varieties.

I haven't tried their six-row malt but I intend to brew a CAP in the fall once it's cold enough for lager fermentation.

(Message edited by BillPierce on June 16, 2007)
 

Tim Copeland
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill & BBB,
You should consider joining the mailing list at Members of Barleyment http://barleyment.wort.ca/
We organize group buys on malts from G&P a few times a year. This is really handy when buying the specialty malts, as you are not forced to buy whole bags. (the same group buys go on for hops also)
The last few times that I have been to G&P they have told me that they are working towards being a E-tail LHBS and plan to bring in yeast and hops, and sell in smaller quantities for the home brewer, but we will have to wait and see if they do.
Also for an alternative E-tail LHBS check out http://www.skinaneybrewing.com/index.htm
its closer than Paddock Wood and there prices seem fair (NAYYY)
cheers
TC
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7278
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Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the news and tip, Tim. Ottawa, while not next door, is certainly a lot closer than Saskatoon. I note that they stock White Labs yeast, which is not always easy to find in Canada; there are a few WL strains for which there aren't Wyeast equivalents.
 

Kentucky Dan
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get mine from the local brewery(ies) and pay about $22.00 per 55# bags of 2 row with tip. They only charge $20 but like to give a couple bucks extra to Thank them for the convenience.

Kentucky Dan (Louisville)
 

Connie
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Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The last 55# bag I bought (locally) was $50 + tax..probably more now
 

Onebarrel
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 206.73.104.35
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I bought a box of Cascade pellets from G&P in Fergus for $5/lb - the sticker on the box said HopUnion... but they only sell by the box and abox is 11 pounds.
They also sell PBW for about $4/lb but it is in
a 50 lb pail ! did not bite on that one yet...
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2795
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

where are you at Onebarrel??
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7291
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Onebarrel is in London, ON and Tim Copeland is in Chatham. I think they're the only Canadians here who can say they live farther south than I do.
 

KeepBrewing
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Post Number: 283
Registered: 05-2002
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have used North Country in the past and was happy with the malt. Only thing was to buy in bulk. It was not worth it for me to buy it from them unless I purchased 4 sacks of malt and I did and was a happy brewer. You could get more home brewers involved and get a pallet rate and really save money on sacks of malt.
The malt around me (local)goes for 35-45 dollars a sack.
 

Onebarrel
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Post Number: 136
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB - I updated my profile... I did not know it was stripped down, now you can see where I hail from.
I was a little bit leery about buying 11 lbs of hops, but you can never have too much Cascade !
Actually I split it up and vaccum bagged them to share with my brewing buddies - I don't think they will be hard to go thru.
 

Tony Legge
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 05-2005
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well it now seems like my LHBS isn't too out of wack charging $55 for a sack of 2 row considering shipping here to Nfld can be expensive.
But I buy most of my bulk malt at a micro brewery at a cost of $35 a sack of 2 row. $20 is $20.
 

Dave Witt
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Username: Davew

Post Number: 980
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 69.47.170.246
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I purchased and picked up 6 bags from Mid-Country Malt near Chicago back in January. I think the price of the Canada Malting 2-row was like $19 and change US. But TF maris otter was closer to $30. The German pils and Munich ran around $25 a bag.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Post Number: 2796
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the Canadian grains are very dirty and dusty but also very malty and cheap....cheap being the key factor.
One barrel....I'm looking for someone to split some bags of grains like
unichs and crystals etc
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Chumley
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Post Number: 4859
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd like to split a bag of unichs, too! I assume they come without testicles?
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7297
Registered: 01-2002
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB, are you back here in Ontario now or still out there in the land of Alexander Keith's? I'd certainly split a bag of Carastan and one of Weyermann munich.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2797
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm here now Bill in Wasaga Beach. We'll have to work somethin out. Full bags of specialty grains are just too much.
haha Unich malt.....funny
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Onebarrel
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Post Number: 137
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BBB - I have a guy I split with already... and even a half bag of crystal 75 takes me a year to go thru. A bag of Weyermanns 6L Munich does not take that long to go thru however and I ended up keeping it for myself - 100% it makes fantastic Alt !
Bill - sounds like you have your system up and running, cranking out some homebrew - great to hear.
It has been a very busy spring so far and I have not been on top of it... but going to brew 40 gals of summer ale next weekend - need beer on tap ASAP.

Cheers, Alex.
 

Onebarrel
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BBB - Wasaga, that's a cool spot - how's the brewing water? are you on lake water?

I usually go to Fergus for a grain run once a year since they are only opened on weekdays... last time I was there I got 12 bags split between 2 brewers. If they were opened on the weekend I would go more often and buy less... so far it has worked out OK and I seem to make it thru till the next trip. Usually have to take a half day off to go there but well worth the savings over LHBS.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7298
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cool, Bob. Fergus is about 75 minutes drive from me on relatively uncrowded back roads, and not a lot farther for you. We'll have to try to arrange a meeting. Can you get away on the right weekday? I confess I don't know if there's a pub in Fergus with decent beer. There are a couple of good ones in Guelph but that would add a half hour to your trip while basically being on my way home.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Post Number: 2798
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I'll do some homework Bill and check things out.
I'll get ahold of you off board and we'll figure out a trip
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Bob G.
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just picked up 10- 55lb sacks of Thomas Fawcett Marris Otter at Certified Foods in San Leandro, CA
Paid 35.53 per sack. I used to pay 27 and some change but, I know with energy costs rising I had to pay more. Still a bargain for what I consider one of the most awesome Pale malts on earth.
Ask not what your country can brew for you but, what you can brew for your country!

 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

Post Number: 864
Registered: 03-2005
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Posted on Friday, June 22, 2007 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, TFMO is pretty good stuff.

T
 

Tim Wi
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Username: Riverkeeper

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Posted From: 24.158.157.254
Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

... Thanks Tom Meier!

My neighbor picked up our order from Tom's club's grain order this afternoon.

8 55lb bags of malt. At about $26 per sack, delivered. Gotta love freight rate, NCM and the generosity of a fellow HB'r; especially since he doesn't know me and we've never met.

Cheers bro!

Tim
 

Tom Meier
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cheers man. Helping out others is the brewers code.

That Canada malt is a great malt for American styles even at full LHBS prices. but for $18/bag its the best deal out there.