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Steve Jones
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Username: Stevej

Post Number: 321
Registered: 08-2001
Posted From: 164.89.253.21
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What are your guesses as to the time it takes an ice cold 12 oz bottle to warm to 40, 45, and 50F (4.4, 7.2, and 10C) at room temp?

I'm setting up a schedule for pulling beers out of ice for a beer/food dinner. We want to be sure the beer is at the proper serving temperature and need to figure out what time to pull it from the ice.

Thanks in advance.
 

Steve Funk
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Username: Tundra45

Post Number: 359
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 209.216.190.233
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have you no thermometer and a spare hour? Please report your results.

My SWAG:
RT @ 70
12 oz long neck recappable brown glass bottle
33 to 40 19 min
33 to 45 37 min
33 to 50 56 min

What do I win?
 

Steve Jones
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Username: Stevej

Post Number: 322
Registered: 08-2001
Posted From: 164.89.253.21
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Spare hour? What the hell is that?

Besides, I'm at work and I thought I'd pose the question to see if anyone has already done this before I tackle it.

First I'll have to chill it to 33F - I don't have any beer that cold!
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 4853
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.118.227.254
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will you be using a loading dock fan to cool the bottles, or just rely ambient temperatures? Also, room temperature is considerably different depending on what part of the country/world you live in (I consider it to be 68F). I suspect relative humidity would also play a role...drier 68F would cool quicker than humid 68F due to evaporative cooling, no?

FWIW, it takes a bottle of ale about a half hour to warm up to the temperature I like, so I would say 15/30/45 min would be a good guess for 40/45/50F.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 4422
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 216.23.59.245
Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, here is the loading dock fan reference!

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Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2793
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

and the expected bite
Bellybuster Bob
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Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 4424
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 216.23.59.245
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That is what trolling is all about, right "Chumley?"

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Patrick C.
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Username: Patrickc

Post Number: 687
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 24.30.90.135
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You got it backwards Chumley, or the question is worded backwards. High humidity will warm it up faster due to the condensation on the bottle.
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 4857
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.227.169.136
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 04:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I said: I suspect relative humidity would also play a role...drier 68F would cool quicker than humid 68F due to evaporative cooling, no?

and Patrick C. said:

You got it backwards Chumley, or the question is worded backwards. High humidity will warm it up faster due to the condensation on the bottle

Unless I am missing something here, we are saying the same thing, no? I am saying that low humidity will cool quicker, you are saying high humidity will warm faster?

Also, Dan L. says:

blah, blah, blah

Soon, Dan L.'s peanut gallery will say:

blah, blah, blah

And what to what value to this thread have any of you snippy whiners positively contributed to?
 

Joakim Ruud
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Username: Joques

Post Number: 781
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 84.209.9.142
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edit: It ain't worth it :-)

(Message edited by joques on June 19, 2007)
For to accuse requires less eloquence, such is man's nature, than to
excuse; and condemnation, than absolution, more resembles justice.
-Hobbes, Leviathan
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 1671
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 86.146.58.84
Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Perhaps a better way of working it out would be to see how long it takes a room temperature beer to cool to the desired temperature when placed in ice.
 

Jared Cook
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Username: Jared

Post Number: 466
Registered: 09-2002
Posted From: 70.248.32.50
Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There's no need to guess. Newton's got a law that covers it.
 

Marlon Lang
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Username: Marlon_lang

Post Number: 132
Registered: 12-2006
Posted From: 68.155.82.181
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, TJB. That won't work. Warming occurs when the phlogiston moves from the cooler beer to the warmer air. Sir Derrick Dinglebeery, in his paper "On the Warming of the Earth due to Phlogiston Shortages" states emphatically that glass is a one-way conductor of phlogiston. So in the experiment you propose, the beer would only cool at the rate of phlogiston movement through the cap. I am sure that you have personally seen that this is true. When you put your beer into the 'frig, it takes forever for it to cool. Q.E.D.
I do nothing, and I do it fairly well.
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 1675
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wierd!
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 7295
Registered: 01-2002
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dhacker, Dinglebeery's pioneering work on phlogiston transfer at the beginning of the 20th century failed to take into account the rotation of the earth. This accelerates the process in the southern hemisphere and retards it at the northern latitudes at which Dinglebeery conducted his experiments. It's also one of the reasons the Australians serve their beer numbingly cold.

(Message edited by BillPierce on June 21, 2007)
 

Marlon Lang
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Username: Marlon_lang

Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2006
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BP
Yes, you are absolutely correct. But Dingleberry, being an Englishman drank his beer warm which tended to cloud both his math and his mind.
I do nothing, and I do it fairly well.
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 1676
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Being an Englishman there is no chance that Dingleberry would have let his beer get anywhere near ice!
 

Joakim Ruud
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Username: Joques

Post Number: 785
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 85.166.4.218
Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thought you guys were pulling my leg :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory
For to accuse requires less eloquence, such is man's nature, than to
excuse; and condemnation, than absolution, more resembles justice.
-Hobbes, Leviathan