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Andrew S. Webster
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Post Number: 294
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was wondering if anyone might have some knowledge on how to get a specific beer imported?

When I lived in Germany, the little town I lived in had a fairly popular beer that was sold over most of Hessen (german equivelent to our states), but I've never seen it outside of Germany (even though I have seen bottles labeled 'Export'). The beer is Licher, from Lich, Germany.

Anyone have any idea how I could get some of this imported? Thanks for any help!
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Talk a distributor into importing it....
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Graham Cox
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Post Number: 1227
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If only there was a way that an individual could make his own beer at home...

Just think about it! You could make any style of beer you wanted! You would no longer be a slave to the whims of the distributors!

Of course, that's all just a pipe dream, I suppose. I mean, think of the logistics of getting the raw materials. Where would an individual get malted grain, fresh yeast, hops, etc.? It's not like there's stores out there that specialize in selling that kind of stuff. Besides, it's probably illegal, anyway.

* sigh * Yeah, better talk to a distributor about importing it.

 

Chumley
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Graham, why the sarcasm? Andrew was asking an honest question...why the hostility?

Andrew, I would fire off an e-mail to Shelton Brothers to request Licher:

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/
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Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 4674
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I get a bit of a kick when I talk to Germans and tell them that I make beer. Very frequently they ask,"You can do that?" It is like making beer is a black art that requires years of study at Weihenstephan.

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Andrew S. Webster
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Look at it this way Graham:

Let's say your a chef, or maybe just someone who loves to cook...you're probably still going to go to a restaurant every now and then and have a nice meal, without having to do all the work.

Thanks Chumley, I'll check it out!
 

Graham Cox
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Post Number: 1228
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You're absolutely right, Chumley. Allow me to rephrase:

"Why not make a clone?"
 

Skotrat
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 07-2007
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not really sure what Germans you are talking to Dan but a good portion of the Germans that I work with on a daily basis know what homebrewing is and quite a few brew at home.

There are also many Wine Makers, Mead Makers and Distillers at work.

(Message edited by skotrat on July 31, 2007)
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Skotrat
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Why not make a clone?"

He needs "ahem"... research material before the clone can be made right?
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Graham Cox
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Point taken, Skot, but it doesn't look terribly challenging:

http://www.licher.de/brauerei/biere/pilsner/
http://www.licher.de/brauerei/biere/export/

Andrew, I completely understand what you're saying - I buy store-bought beer all the time when my homebrew stocks are low. In all seriousness, though, it would probably be a lot easier (and cheaper, and better quality) to brew your own than to deal with distributor(s) who have very little incentive to help an individual with a specific request. Maybe Chumster is onto something there, though.
 

Skotrat
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually Licher Pils is available in bottles at the hotel that I usually stay at when I visit the home office.

It is rather refreshing and has a crisp bitterness. If your average pils in the states was as good I would drink a lot of commercial American Pils.

Every time I go back to Germany I realize that in the large scheme of things we American no just about nothing when it comes to brewing Great Lager Beer
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Andrew Bales
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I concur on that. Most, if not almost all, homebrewed lagers are not even in the same running as a fresh German lager. And even those taste only half as good here (if that). Its super tough at home to get the job done right.

I have judged lagers categories for too many years to say "I can make that at home". I know that I can't, and don't know anyone that can.

Well, there was a competition beer once that was pretty close. I don't live anywhere near Noonan either; so the brewpubs I have tried have lagers I'd rather not have ordered.
 

Graham Cox
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I have judged lagers categories for too many years to say "I can make that at home". I know that I can't, and don't know anyone that can."


I respectfully disagree.

I know for a fact that the last one I made finished in the top 10 of 176 entries at the NHC, and I only point that out because of the relatively simple equipment and techniques I used to make it. I have a friend who brews better Pils than me most of the time, although he does so on a homemade tiered system, but he does it with great consistency.

I would go so far as to say it's easy to brew great Pils at home, but it's also a style that is easy to screw up.
 

Andrew Bales
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Well, I loved to try it. Not saying you don't make good beer, or even great, never having had your beers that I know of (as a NHC judge); but too many lagers entered into comps are not even close.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of decent lagers out there, but few if any come close the good ones in Germany on tap. On the other hand, a good IPA from home probably beats most world wide that are sold to distrubutors.
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Andrew - Bunk, I Say.
 

Tom Viemont
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Andrew-

Dan Shelton asked himself the same question, "How can I get the beer I love so much here in the US." For him it was Cantillion, I think. Give Shelton Bros. a call. They may already know the brewery you're talking about. B. United imports some great beers, too.

Although it might be faster, if you start saving your money for a visit back to Germany.
 

Paul Erbe
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I think B. United imports many of the item in Andrews picture.
 

Andrew S. Webster
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I emailed sheltonbrothers, and the brewery directly. I have received a response from Licher, which follows:

Dear Mr. Webster,

Thank you for your e-mail.

We are glad to inform you that the Licher Weizen is available in the following states; Licher Pils is not exported to the US at present.

Marrs Distributing, Tulsa, Oklahoma
Phone: 918 622-1440
Fax : 918 622-1443

WH Company, Georgetown, South Carolina
Phone: 843/527-6177
Fax : 843/527-6177

Bryant Distributing, Owensboro, Kentucky
Phone: 270 684-2326

May be you have the chance to taste the Licher Weizen.

Best regards
International Division
Gisela Szybalsky
Management Assistant

BITBURGER BRAUGRUPPE GmbH
Römermauer 3 | D-54634 Bitburg
Tel. +496561 14-2496 | Fax +496561 14-82496 | Mobil
E-Mail: Gisela.Szybalsky@bitburger-braugruppe.de
Besuchen Sie uns im Internet: http://www.bitburger-braugruppe.de

Not much help, but I'll have to give these guys a call.
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A good friend, Dave "Beer Dave" Gausepohl is a salesman for Bryant. Let me know if you would like to contact him.

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