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Mike G.
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 04-2005
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For all of you who obtained S189 yeast - any results, opinions to this point?

I used it in two batches last year, but lack practical experience with other lager yeasts. To me, it left a soft euro lager profile.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've got a pils lagering and an Ofest that just went into secondary that were made with it. Both attenuated very well and have a nice full mouthfeel to them, in spite of using low mash temps. I think "soft Euro lager profile" is a good way to describe it. It's reputed to be the Hurlimann yeast and I'd love to try a Sami with it. Threw quite a bit of sulphur while fermenting, but it cleaned up nicely with a bit of time. Wish I could get S-189 all the time.....
 

gregory gettman
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WHat ferment temps does it like?
 

Chumley
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Post Number: 5356
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I brewed a mai-bock with it 2 weeks ago...it is done, I need to rack it into a keg, but since my lagering fridge is full, I haven't been in a hurry.

Funny you got sulphur, Denny....I didn't get any. And I had another bock fermenting at the same time with Budvar yeast that was way stinky sulphur. Both were fermented at 52F.

Think I will try a CAP and an O'fest next with S-189.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had it running at about 45-48 for the pils, a bit higher for the Ofest.

No sulphur, huh, Chumley? Maybe George sent me the part with the sulphur in it! ;)
 

Mike G.
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Post Number: 253
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I didn't note much sulfur either, for what it's worth. I think it produced more of the acetaldehyde-type aromas.

Oh, and I used it at about 50-52 in one batch, and 58 in another. It seemed to work fine in both environments.
 

Chumley
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I think it produced more of the acetaldehyde-type aromas

Yes, that was my experience, exactly.
 

Mike G.
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Post Number: 254
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Hey Chumley,

OT, but what kind of attenuation do you get with Wy2278? I just fermented an american standard from 1.042 to 1.004, with Wy2278. The beer tastes good, and is correct per style, but 90% AA? That seems a bit much for that yeast, no?

I did about a 2 hour mash at 150, maybe that helps...
 

Dan Listermann
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Attenuation mostly depends on what you gave it to ferment, not the yeast strain.
 

Chumley
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I always get well-attenuated beers with WY2278. The description "malty but dry" is a good description for that yeast.

I have been using the Budvar (WY2000) yeast this year for pilsners. It makes for a wonderful pilsner, but lacks the crispness of Wy2278. I think I prefer WY2278 for German Pilsners, and WY2000 for Bohemian Pilsners.
 

Mike G.
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Post Number: 255
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I would definitely say it is crisp. It seems to work for an american standard, even though I would have preferred to use Wy2007.
 

Paul Erbe
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Post Number: 1061
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Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chumley sent me a little of his stash. I brewed a German pils with it. I fermented at 53 which is the recommended temp from Lallemand. Zero sulfur note.

It took a 1.050 wort that was 97% Pils 3% Carahell mashed with a single decoction first step 143 second step 157 down to 1.012 in a week. I am hoping it will eek out a few more points.

The sample was very clean and what I guess I would describe as neutral.

(Message edited by perbe on March 27, 2008)
 

Paul Erbe
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Post Number: 1068
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Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2008 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I pitched a second beer on the 189 yeast cake last Friday. The German Pils did finish a little lower 1.009. The American Lager that I brewed last Friday was already down to 1.010 last night. I put the sample in the fridge and tasted it this morning, again very clean, really lets the corn and 6 row shine through.