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Pat Babcock
Moderator
Username: Pbabcock

Post Number: 204
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 71.238.18.118
Posted on Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Greetings, Beerlings! Take me to your lager...

Our ISP is once again pushing a deal on T1 service. Though not as important to our email subscribers, this will greatly increase the availablilty of the HBD and Brews and Views websites for our web users. The monthly charge is $379 compared to our current $195. Commitment deadline is 31 May against a 3 year contract.

If the HBD can raise the first year's service fee ($4558) before the commitment deadline, I will risk the remaining 2 years and commit. (If someone is out there wishing to sponsor the HBD, now's the time to step forward! In fact, I will work with a sponsor who wishes to commit to the full three year period with the ability to advertise on the HBD domain beyond the current header ads. It's gotten to the point where the HBD's current funding model is no longer sufficient.)

Aside from this, the HBD lays claim, at this moment, to $474.24 with $2925.45 left against the current contract, not including any other expenses. Soon, we will go to the cupboard and find it dry...

To donate, visit http://hbd.org/donate.shtml
Pat Babcock
HBD Chief of Janitorial Services
 

Hophead
Senior Member
Username: Hophead

Post Number: 2771
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 167.4.1.41
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks again Pat.
 

John Ferens
Intermediate Member
Username: John_ferens

Post Number: 257
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 192.104.24.222
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Indeed, thank you and everyone that help make this board run (Bill P. et. al.). HBD is an incredible source of knowledge. BTW, a check is in the mail - really!
 

Dick the Brewzzer
Member
Username: Brewzzer

Post Number: 106
Registered: 01-2007
Posted From: 69.245.111.235
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This forum is in the last stages of death. You can keep injecting it with some new members, but the cancerous tumors known as skotrat and his filthy rats have destroyed the living tissues of knowledge. Combine that with the rigid Catholic school mentality of the forum's organizers and you have the perfect end....with last rites included.

Beg on, Babcock. The knowledge I have gained here in the past few months isn't worth a dime.
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 8885
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.225.170
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dick, you're more than entitled to your opinion, but your personal attacks are tiresome and part (some would say even a cause) of the problem rather than a solution. I really don't know what it is that you're seeking. The number of posts is indeed down, but the level of civility has been rather high lately. If we have to choose between reduced activity and a donnybrook (and I'm not sure these are the only options), I confess I'd opt for fewer but more civil posts.
 

Chumley
Senior Member
Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5429
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.217.153.195
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tell us how you really feel about the board, TL
 

Graham Cox
Senior Member
Username: T2driver

Post Number: 1671
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.32.253.156
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dissenting opinion notwithstanding, thanks Pat. Paypal's away.
 

Little Dipper
Intermediate Member
Username: Littledipper

Post Number: 408
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 70.238.105.67
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just sent my donation. Thanks for all your work, Pat.

(Message edited by littledipper on May 21, 2008)
 

Paul Hayslett
Senior Member
Username: Paulhayslett

Post Number: 1663
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 71.234.46.245
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since I just made a donation in December, I was going to take a pass this time. But sending a check is the best way I know to answer Dick's post. I'll drop it in the mail tomorrow.

Thanks again, Pat, for everything.
 

Grizwold
New Member
Username: Grizwold

Post Number: 25
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 71.113.38.76
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 05:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ditto
 

Joakim Ruud
Advanced Member
Username: Joques

Post Number: 953
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 84.208.79.179
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, is Paypal an option these days? Cool! Donation's away!
 

Paul Edwards
Senior Member
Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 1592
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 99.137.109.60
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just wrote a check and will mail it later today.

Thanks, Pat!
 

Anthony Catencamp
Member
Username: Reddog

Post Number: 139
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 216.170.141.133
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PAYPAL payment has been sent. I've learned too much information from this site to see it go away. Now, if I could only apply everything I've learned in a perfect manner.
 

Skotrat
Advanced Member
Username: Skotrat

Post Number: 701
Registered: 07-2007
Posted From: 75.67.98.168
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I thought that Pat stopped PayPal because they are finicky
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 8887
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.225.170
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There were those who said PayPal was their preferred method, so Pat re-enabled it.
 

HEU Brewer
Intermediate Member
Username: Heu_brewer

Post Number: 371
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 146.137.152.40
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Payment sent via PayPal

(Message edited by HEU_Brewer on May 21, 2008)
 

Joakim Ruud
Advanced Member
Username: Joques

Post Number: 954
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 84.208.79.179
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PayPal males it a LOT easier for us internationals to donate.
 

Denny Conn
Senior Member
Username: Denny

Post Number: 6773
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 140.211.82.4
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't know how much it will come to, but BJCP exam graders have been donating their whopping 50 cents per exam to the fund.
 

Beertracker
Senior Member
Username: Beertracker

Post Number: 1188
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 72.16.21.191
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I donated my two cents from the BJCP exam graders reimbursement.
 

Mike
Advanced Member
Username: Macker

Post Number: 510
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 151.151.73.171
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I will match whatever Listermann's wife sends.....
 

Leonard King
New Member
Username: 222lmk

Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 4.131.72.44
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have been using this site for years,lurking, using anybody I know that had a computer,I have piles of info of all sorts printed and have learned alot as a result,and just registered a couple weeks ago having finaly got my own computer.So, I hope every little bit counts 'cause I can't sent you much.
Just want to make sure,is this the right place to sent a check?

Thanks,
Matthew

HBD Server Fund
PO Box 871309
Canton Township, MI 48187-6309
 

Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann

Post Number: 5588
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.29.223.32
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike, you may be reminded of this later.
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 8890
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.225.170
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, you have the right address, Leonard. Every dollar helps in its own way. And once again I will mention that the HBD is registered as a 501(c)3 nonprofit educational organization, so donations are tax deductible for those who itemize.
 

Bob Wall
Senior Member
Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 1537
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 139.76.64.66
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oooh, this ought to be good! I hope Dan's wife is loaded!

edit: by the way, I already sent my check.

(Message edited by brewdudebob on May 22, 2008)
 

Leonard King
New Member
Username: 222lmk

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2008
Posted From: 4.131.76.33
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Bill,
This site has given me alot so I don't mind giving somethin' back.As far as taxes, I am your tax dollars at work so I don't pay 'em just don't want to lose site of this site.
Matthew
 

Pat Babcock
Moderator
Username: Pbabcock

Post Number: 205
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 136.1.1.101
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, folks! I'm not sure that we'll achieve the T1 line, but the added funding will ensure, in any case, that I don't suddenly end up without the means to continue it as is (but I'd guarantee the T1 would eliminate the #1 complaint regarding B&V: response time - Sorry, DTB: the rats and my Catholic upbringing are issues 546 and, I think, 1,000,256,338). If it were solely up to me, I'd have jumped on the T1 already, but my family has needs too, and I simply cannot commit that much of my personal budget.
Pat Babcock
HBD Chief of Janitorial Services
 

Skotrat
Advanced Member
Username: Skotrat

Post Number: 702
Registered: 07-2007
Posted From: 75.67.98.168
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, DTB: the rats and my Catholic upbringing are issues 546 and, I think, 1,000,256,338).

gee thanks Pat...
 

Steve Anderson
Intermediate Member
Username: Steveinmemphis

Post Number: 282
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 216.37.68.121
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just sent mine in. I've used this board for years, but have never donated before today. I'll try to make it a more regular gift.
 

Mike Huss
Senior Member
Username: Mikhu

Post Number: 1909
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.123.94.154
Posted on Friday, May 23, 2008 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pat, I threw a little your way yesterday. I'm not rich like Bob, I can't throw around the kind of money he does , but I chipped in a little.
 

Pat Babcock
Moderator
Username: Pbabcock

Post Number: 206
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 136.2.1.153
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks to all who have come forward to the aid of the HBD. In only 10 days, we've managed to raise over $1300 toward the goal of $4558 (first year of T1 service; alternatively, to goal of covering the current contract expense of $2925). It was great to see many of the same who come forward each time the HBD is in need, and it was also gratifying to see several new names as well.

There remains only three days before the discounted T1 offer expires - and that's maybe for the best. I am researching other modes of faster local hosting but expect that I will have to bow to economic forces and "offshore" the HBD as many have suggested I do. Hopefully our volunteer codeslinger Anton will have rendered the HBD scripts portable by the end of this contract's term - T minus 15 months and counting...

(You're welcome Skot! )
Pat Babcock
HBD Chief of Janitorial Services