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Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5519
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.118.227.254
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The story is, I agreed to brew a beer for our Fantasy Football draft sometime ago, and then promptly forgot about it. Last night I get an e-mail, saying our draft is Monday night September 1! So, I need a beer in a week.

This morning I smacked a pack of Ringwood yeast. I am thinking about a 1.040-1.045 bitter type beer. For a malt bill:

9 lbs. Maris Otter
0.5 lbs. medium crystal
0.25 lbs. Victory

The hop bill is where I am struggling. I am real low for British dirt hops. The best I could do, would be Target or Northern Brewer for bittering (maybe 20 IBUs), and Styrian Goldings for flavor and aroma.

Alternatively, I could make an American style bitter. I am flush with Simcoe/Centennials/Amarillow/Warrior/Summit, plus a little Cascades.

Finally, I do have some Continental hops, albeit in smaller quantities....Saaz, Hallertauer, some Mount Hood.

I am trying to brew something to please the masses (this IS a FF draft)....what would you do?
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 1197
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 64.233.251.195
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would buy several cases of PBR and empty it into a cornie and recarb it before serving.
 

Joakim Ruud
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Username: Joques

Post Number: 1033
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 78.82.198.113
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Target is a great hop to my experience. Other than that, I'm happy it isn't me!
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 9141
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 69.157.28.93
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The safe choice would be Target for bittering and Styrian Golding (or Willamette if you have access to them) for flavor and aroma. If you want to take a small risk (the flavor/aroma is distinctive) you could use Target as the sole variety.
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5520
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.118.227.254
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, thanks....I was torn between Target or Northern Brewer, so Target/Styrians (I have no Willamette) it will be.

Other than that, I'm happy it isn't me!

You underestimate the Jedi powers of the Ringwood yeast, young Skywalker. This yeast (as well as Fuller's) I am quite confident can give me a nice fresh bitter in a week.
 

Patrick C.
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Username: Patrickc

Post Number: 824
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 72.37.171.84
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd go American style, unless the draft is for footballers who can't use their hands.

Use any of the hops you have to get around 30 - 35 IBU, with 20 or so coming from the bittering hops and the rest coming from flavor and aroma additions.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 5763
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 74.215.70.152
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A customer, who once worked for the Kaltenberg Brewery, told me that their wheat went from the mill to the bottle in four days.
 

Don Price
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Username: Mobeer4don

Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2007
Posted From: 208.89.5.238
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dry hopping the PBR would make for a weird experiment.
 

bill king
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Username: Kingwj

Post Number: 21
Registered: 04-2008
Posted From: 68.80.1.27
Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What are you going to do with the other 6 days???

http://hbd.org/discus/messages/1/45643.html?1219101432


 

tim roth
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Username: Hopdude

Post Number: 676
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 12.226.32.209
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chumley-
It looks like you have things figured out just fine. I've got no experience with the Ringwood yeast but you sure are spot on about the Fuller's strain. Works fast and drops right out! cheers,tim
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 9142
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.150.192.193
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pitch a good-sized starter (a really fresh smack pack might be enough for 5 gallons at 1.040) and give the chilled wort a healthy dose of O2. The Ringwood strain (Wyeast 1187) is indeed a fast worker that drops clear, but it can be finicky and throw a lot of diacetyl if underpitched and underaerated.
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 1618
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 76.252.46.95
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A friend of mine that some of you may know, Dr Ed Bronson, PhD, brewed beer in a week back in 1993 while on a raft/camping trip.

He stopped by Indianapolis on his way, and I gave him 2 quarts of yeast slurry I'd acquired from the local brewpub.

He did the wort boil over an open fire, and used bags of ice to control the fermentation temp.

AFAIK, everyone survived and enjoyed the brew

pics at

http://www.gsp.org/rt1993p.htm

Scroll down the page a ways...
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 5764
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 74.215.70.152
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have known Ed for a long time. He is still a nutcake!
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5532
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.217.156.19
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, the Ringwood yeast took longer to ferment than I thought (I think my starter was too small), but it finished in a week. I racked it into a secondary....tasted pretty good, bitter, hoppy, fruity, malty....slight diacetyl, but I like that.

I will rack it into a keg tomorrow morning and chill, then force-carb that evening. Monday afternoon I will give it the taste test....if it is "green" tasting, I will probably bring my keg of Oktoberfest that has lagered for 4 months instead to the draft.....but that ale would have to be awfully green tasting for me to waste good Oktoberfest on an office FF draft.
 

Jim DeShields
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Username: Niquejim

Post Number: 116
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 67.233.10.24
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

..but that ale would have to be awfully green tasting for me to waste good Oktoberfest on an office FF draft


It would have to taste like Satan's ass for me to take a 4 month lagered O-fest
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5533
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.217.156.19
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes....you are quite right, Jim. Wasting lagered O'fest on co-workers would be a crime against nature.

Besides, I just drew a glass of the quickie ale (couldn't wait for Monday), and it is delicious! Target/Styrians are a nice combination, and the complex Ringwood ale flavors go nicely with them. Best of all, I doubt if anyone will drink any of it....I told the gal who is organizing the draft that I am bringing a British ale, so she should buy some Budmilloors for those of pedestrain tastes.
 

Jim DeShields
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Username: Niquejim

Post Number: 117
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 67.233.10.24
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Then it will be even better in a couple of weeks

Good thinking
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5534
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.217.156.19
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes! While everyone who showed up loved my quickie ale, three people forgot about the draft (the problem with having it on Labor Day)! I am guessing I have at least 3/4 of a keg left!

Even better was the draft....I am loaded up with Piladelphia Eagles! I got Westbrook, McNabb, L.J. Smith, and their defense.
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 1208
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 64.233.251.195
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Shooting for the best sportsmanship(read best loser) award this year.
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Username: Matfink

Post Number: 2014
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 92.233.31.3
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Target Styrian is a great combination, and couples woth Ringwood yeast I'm not surprised it tastes good.

Drink it fresh, don't overcarbonate it, don't over chill it and you could have a pretty authentic English Ale!