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Graham Cox
Senior Member Username: T2driver
Post Number: 2317 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.15.105.173
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:17 am: |
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Gentlemen, I'm taking my new right for a test drive tonight after the plumber finally ran my NG line. I have a fireplace with NG logs upstairs with a large unfinished cedar mantle, and when we light it, we get that cedar smell, but a smell that you would expect with toasted cedar that has not yet charred or ignited. I just figured it was an aromatic of the wood. Now, I'm down in my basement with relatively higher-output NG burners on my rig, and I smell the same thing. I have a door wide open just a couple of feet away from the burners, so ventilation is not an issue. I've had NG heat and hot water for the past 14 years in my prior house and for the past six months in this house. This smell does not show up in the heating vents or from the hot water heaters. So, WTF? I know what uncombusted NG smells like, and this ain't it. (Incidentally, the new rig is somewhat disappointing in terms of horsepower so far, but it's competing with the furnaces for flow this evening. It will definitely get the job done, it's just a matter of how far ahead of time I'm going to have to light the burners.) |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 11149 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:42 am: |
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Graham, what is the diameter of the branch gas line to the burner area? |
   
Graham Cox
Senior Member Username: T2driver
Post Number: 2319 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.15.105.173
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 03:47 am: |
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3/4", Bill, branched off a 1" iron pipe, and that pipe is only about 15' from the source. The 3/4" run is only about 15', counting both horizontal and vertical. |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 11150 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 04:03 am: |
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OK, then, it's not a restriction issue. I'm assuming your gas plumber built a manifold from the 3/4 in. pipe to the individual burners. If you're concerned about the output when running three burners at once, I wouldn't sweat it. I don't believe I've ever used more than two at the same time. The woody odor is unusual, however. I'd expect a small amount of paint odor when firing up a new burner, but it should dissipate within a couple of minutes as it is oxidized from the burner itself. |
   
Belly Buster Bob
Senior Member Username: Canman
Post Number: 3106 Registered: 02-2003 Posted From: 131.137.245.198
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 12:58 pm: |
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could your replacement air be being drawn from upstairs where your cedar mantle is??? |
   
Steve Jones
Advanced Member Username: Stevej
Post Number: 678 Registered: 08-2001 Posted From: 199.190.8.12
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Just a wild guess, but I would think the makeup air would come from the open door a few feet away. ... a door wide open just a couple of feet away from the burners ...
That is indeed a mystery. The den directly above my garage brewery has one wall that is entirely built of Eastern red cedar ... two 4' builtin bookcases, with a 3.5' solid cedar wall between (and above). It also has cedar crown mold, baseboard, and window and door trim. It is finished, however, but is still rather aromatic when you walk into it. I've never noticed it when brewing. While I don't use NG for my brewrig, I have used NG for heating, water heating, and cooking for 25+ years and have never had a cedar smell. |
   
dhacker
Senior Member Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 1970 Registered: 11-2002 Posted From: 74.177.60.105
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Since this is a mystery, and answers seem few, I'll throw out a left field question. Are you taking any meds or other supplements that could be affecting your olfactory senses? |
   
Graham Cox
Senior Member Username: T2driver
Post Number: 2321 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.15.105.173
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Ha! While some would ask that question regarding my thinking, no, I'm not taking anything that would interfere with my olfactory system. I think maybe it's what my Dad used to call simply "burning off the 'new'". |
   
Dave Witt
Senior Member Username: Davew
Post Number: 1391 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 68.57.245.38
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 01:55 am: |
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It could be intensifying any kind of wood aroma in your home. I know that when I run my ventless garage heater (NG) if I'm painting or staining wood, etc, the solvent aroma becomes very strong. (Message edited by davew on January 21, 2010) |