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Connie
Senior Member
Username: Connie

Post Number: 1620
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 98.230.141.204
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/gms/2385842579.html
 

The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member
Username: Matfink

Post Number: 2446
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 81.145.171.122
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wow
 

Graham Cox
Senior Member
Username: T2driver

Post Number: 2730
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 72.15.105.173
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My club is on it. Thanks, Connie!
 

Chumley
Senior Member
Username: Chumley

Post Number: 6304
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.118.227.254
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Connie, would you start scanning Montana craigslist for me for a kegerator? I find that I am far too lazy to remember to do this on a frequent basis.
 

Connie
Senior Member
Username: Connie

Post Number: 1621
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 98.230.141.204
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


I don't know about Montana, but I see a lot of kegerators around here...I bought two at garage sales...we won't mention the prices
 

The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member
Username: Matfink

Post Number: 2449
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 81.145.171.122
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can you send one over to England for me please ;-)
No one has them here.
 

Connie
Senior Member
Username: Connie

Post Number: 1622
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 98.230.141.204
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JB,
Wish I could.
I've shipped a couple of "eBay" item to the old country and was amazed at the shipping costs.
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 12957
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.150.49.181
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2011 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Europeans are usually amazed at the immense size of North American fridges compared to their own much smaller models.

I could see the opportunity for a profitable joint venture, with Connie scouring the South for old fridges and filling a shipping container, while JB would sell them to eager homebrewers on his side of the pond. However, there is one big "gotcha" that would be very difficult to overcome: the fact that North American fridges all run on 120V 60 Hz and and are not very adaptable to 230V 50 Hz over there.

(Message edited by BillPierce on May 20, 2011)
 

Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann

Post Number: 7729
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 75.242.150.62
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They make adapters . . .
 

The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member
Username: Matfink

Post Number: 2451
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 77.100.116.116
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Big 'American' style fridges are getting popular here. I'd buy one in a flash if I had the space.

I've a big old fridge in the shed that I got for free. The aim is to convert it. Now if I could just find some time...
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 12958
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.150.49.181
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2011 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, it's not quite like the power supplies for modern electronics, which sense the voltage and frequency of the source, and adjust accordingly. An adapter sufficient to handle a refrigerator compressor (which is sensitive to frequency as well as voltage) would be large and expensive.
 

mikel
Intermediate Member
Username: Mikel

Post Number: 345
Registered: 02-2001
Posted From: 166.181.2.38
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It must be the frequency that's the problem? Does a motor really care what frequency it's receiving?
 

Tom Meier
Senior Member
Username: Brewdawg96

Post Number: 1009
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 75.76.105.94
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A motor would run at (5/6)*RPM, where the RPM is the speed at 60 hz. It would just have a longer run time while the compressors running, for the same amount of cooling duty. It would not be able to handle its maximum design load, only 5/6ths of it.

Converting the hertz is way more complex than the voltage.

But no, motors do not care what frequency they run at it... This is the concept of variable frequency drives, which are used very extensively in modern process, utility and HVAC systems..
 

Connie
Senior Member
Username: Connie

Post Number: 1623
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 98.230.141.204
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey JB,
This one showed up today...about twice what I'd give, but you never know just what the actual selling price will be

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/app/2398729806.html