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Ken Anderson
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Username: Ken75

Post Number: 1949
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 76.189.235.103
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan's company is mentioned in this article. It's always puzzled me why wineries are charged a pittance, and yet even the smallest brewery is charged thousands of dollars.

http://examiner.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=27889:new-ohio- law-could-boost-craft-beer-breweries&catid=35:ap-news&Itemid=56
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 7883
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 72.49.60.83
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It is a real big deal here. I was going to cough up the extra four grand for a tasting room, but it brought on change of use issues for the building which required a lot of expensive safety upgrades. This will let us serve beer by the drink, not just samples, without needing to spend much. Our experience will allow us to better consider the value of changes to justify a proper upgrade which would let us serve wine and spirits as well.

I think that the $4000 state license fee, compared to less than $80 for wineries, is due to a time before micro-brewing. Wineries are considered farm operations and all breweries were factories.
 

Paul Hayslett
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Username: Paulhayslett

Post Number: 2974
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 24.2.134.193
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CT is rife with such double standards. For example, wineries can sell by the bottle from their tasting rooms on Sundays, when all other retailers are closed. Some of this is surely left over from the days of farm wineries vs commercial brewers (and distilleries), but I think a lot of the resistance to change is pure snobbery. Try drinking a beer in a public park and the cops will shut you down in a flash. But a glass of wine with your picnic dinner is perfectly acceptable. This distinction is slowly fading, but it is fading slowest in the State Capitol building.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 7884
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 208.102.247.68
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am told that the the wineries were against allowing breweries to serve their own beer. These are two distinct markets and such thinking is not productive.
 

Josh Vogel
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Username: Loopie_beer

Post Number: 86
Registered: 02-2011
Posted From: 65.60.214.75
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Finally our state is doing something worthwhile that makes sense rather than just picking issues to cause problems between Dems and Reps. Hopefully this will bring more business to Ohio.
Dan, hopefully you can get the kinks and bugs worked out so you too can benefit from this. Best of Luck!
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 7893
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 72.49.60.83
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks,

Every once in a while a blind squirrel finds an acorn.