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Graham Cox
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Username: T2driver

Post Number: 2854
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 72.15.96.196
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My LHBS changed distributors and now carries a number of base malts I have never used. I was wondering if any of you had any observations, recommendations, or comments on these:

American
Briess 2-row
Briess Pale Ale
Briess 6-row
Rahr 2-row

UK
Simpson's Golden Promise
Crisp (something)

I had been very happy with the Euromalt American 2-row he had been carrying for a number of styles, but alas, it is no more.
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 7905
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice selection. The Crisp is probably Marris Otter.

What sort of problems have various malts caused you in the past?

(Message edited by listermann on January 22, 2012)
 

Graham Cox
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Post Number: 2855
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, I haven't had any problems. Weyermann Pils tends to be hazy in my experience when using single infusion, but aside from that, I've been happy with everybody's malt. That said, they're all different. They have different flavors and different idiosyncracies. I'm just curious to hear any comments - good, bad, or otherwise - about these specific malts or companies, since I'll probably be using these malts quite a bit now.
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 7906
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have never had any problems with any of them, but I can't recall doing any organized back to back tests so, aside from big problems, which there weren't any, saying something definitive is not very authoritative.
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 2465
Registered: 11-2002
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I will give my nod at least to the Rahr 2 row. I used it for all my 2 row base grain needs this past year and was really happy with the results . . I bought sacks from 50poundsack. (since I have no LHBS) It cost less than some of the other brands, and I will say the resulting beers were quit clear and clean. Of the 150 lbs. or so that I used, I can say my mill had to endure not a single stone or other foreign, roller damaging particle. So I consider that a major plus as well . .
 

Anthony Catencamp
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 08-2004
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to throw my support behind the Rahr 2-row and their pils malt if your shop can also get that. Excellent extraction and good flavors. I first started using Briess when I began all grain and the extraction was lower than expected. Price wise, at least in my area, Briess and Rahr are priced very close to each other ($39 a sack), so Rahr is an easy choice.

If I had a place where I can get my hands on some Crisp MO at a decent price, that is all I would brew with for recipes requiring 2-row. I was lucky to be able to purchase it from a micro brewery for a while, at a great price and I loved it. Fuller, biscuit like flavor that was very good in APA's and IPA's.
 

Steve Ruch
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Post Number: 326
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've used some Rahr lately and had good results. It's been a while since I've used the golden promise and don't remember a lot other than I wasn't unhappy with it.
 

Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 13545
Registered: 01-2002
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I used Golden Promise a few years ago. It's good malt, quite similar to Maris Otter. The best British malt I've ever used is Gleneagles floor-malted Maris Otter. My supplier no longer carries it, but it's absolutely fabulous.
 

Steve Haun
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Username: Stevehaun

Post Number: 424
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use Rahr 2 row, Rahr pale ale, and Rahr pilsener. They are usually very fresh as the maltster is in Shakopee, MN which is about an hour away from me. If I could get Rahr vienna and Rahr munich - I would never buy continental malt again.
 

michael atkins
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Post Number: 858
Registered: 11-2003
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Graham

Cudos to the Golden Promise as well. I buy it whenever I can for British and others.

My supplier does not have Weyermanns on hand all the time so I use Briess Pilsner with excellent results. I qualified a couple of beers at Regionals - a German Pils (1st) and a PPL (2nd) using Briess.

My experience with Briess (Pilsner)is that I get about 5 points less in efficiency, but it could be just less modified or it could be just me.
 

Jeff Rankert
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Post Number: 379
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Simpsons is pretty light, 1.8-2 degrees L, and has a sweet-malty flavor. I have some TF Golden Promise, and that is kilned to around 3L, so it a little closer to MO. Both are good in a bitter.

Crisp MO is very good, floor malted. Crips owns Gleneagles IIRC. I have some Warminster MO to try since my local Crips source dried up.

The Briess 6 row makes a good CAP, mine went on to the NHC second round, and I had some on tap at Club Night that some may have tried at the Michigan both. I use the 2 row some since we get Briess cheap at one place around here. Good for cream ales and American IPAs and the like.

Would like to try the Rahr or Great Western 2-row some day.

The supply of Durst Pilsner has dried up. I liked that for dry Pilsners. Playing with Weyermann and Best now.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another vote for Rahr....head and shoulders over Briess IMO.
 

Steve Haun
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Post Number: 425
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What Denny said.
 

Vance Barnes
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Post Number: 4263
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My lhbs just had Rahr for the first time and I picked up a bag of 2 row. Haven't used any yet but soon. I've always used Breiss cause that's what they carried so looking forward to trying the Rhar.
 

davidwaite
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Post Number: 2204
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Briess Pale ale is an excellent malt. I use it for the base in my porters, stouts, American pale ales and IPA's. I know a lot of people, Denny obviously one of them, who look down on it compared to Rahr. But I've never noticed a significant difference between the two. And I've used both extensively. The educated taste buds of the BJCP judges seem to agree that it produces fine beers as well.
 

Chumley
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Post Number: 6400
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I admit to being a Briess snob in the past, but that was based on that one year (2003?) when their malt was pretty bad. I think that was the year of the great drought. I haven't used it since, so I can't render an opinion. I do like all their crystal malts, and their specialy malts EXCEPT their crappy 10 and 20 Munich malt.

I tried using the Briess Munich light again late last year (the local LHBS stocks), and once again was disappointed with it. I ordered some Best Munich off the internet, and it was night and day difference. I think that Best Munich is my new favorite Munich malt.
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 7668
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2012 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I think that Best Munich is my new favorite Munich malt."..same here. I like it even better than Durst, my previous favorite.
 

Bierview
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Username: Bierview

Post Number: 1108
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been happy with Rahr and Crisp for the past few years. This year I discovered Castle which is also very good.
 

Paul Edwards
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Post Number: 2215
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've used Castle Pils for some of my Belgian recipes. The results were very good.

I've only used Rahr a few times. Liked it, tho.
 

Denny Conn
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Yeah, I liked Castle a lot, too....then I discovered Best.
 

Paul Edwards
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I'll have to bug my LHBS to see if they can get Best
 

Bierview
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I've tried Best. It was great.
 

Brad On Bass
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I'll put another nod out there for the Crisp MO. Bought a 55-pound sack of it and it has gone over quite well as the base malt for my most recent bitter, mild, IPA and a St. Chuck's approximation. Great flavor!