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Paul Hayslett
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Post Number: 2157
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know it's coming. Someone will post about Wanda Sykes and how the muted response to her odious comments shows yet again how biased our media is. So I'll be first to state for the record:

I think Wanda Sykes was totally over the line at the WHCA dinner. Her comments were odious and inappropriate. No one should ever joke that another person should be tortured or suffer serious illness. It's not funny.

And I think that the mainstream press was miserable in its failure to denounce her comments. I do not believe that the MSM is a biased as some on the right claim. But in this case, the bias that does exist is painfully obvious.
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 6613
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Her comments are being discussed all over the MSM. What is the problem? They are not being ignored? Are they being hailed?
 

Paul Hayslett
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Post Number: 2158
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The MSM was might quiet about the incident early this morning. It seems to have picked up some momentum since then.
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 6614
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I saw it all over the place yesterday.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 10326
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whatever the media is doing (I read about it yesterday), the White House, perhaps even the president himself, needs to disavow her remarks and issue an apology. She was way out of line even for comedy.
 

Paul Hayslett
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Post Number: 2159
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It would have been better for Obama if he walked out at the time. Anything he says now will sound like "too little, too late". Poor judgment, IMHO.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, poor judgment to even hire her in the first place.
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 2594
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mr. Obama's immediate reaction says it all. It tells me everything I need to know about his character.

(Message edited by brewdudebob on May 12, 2009)
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 6616
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL Bob!
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 2595
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So Dan, is it fair game to publicly wish illness and death upon our political enemies?
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 6617
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, Bob. It is the sudden revelation you found about Obama's character. Wow! Who would have thought that would ever occur to you, of all people?
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 2596
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It wasn't sudden. The man has no character. It is unfortunate the rest of world is blind to it. But hey...American Idol is on tonight, so who cares?
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 6620
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Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I looked sudden to me!
 

marc pullum
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Saw a bit of her routine a few years ago on HBO and was highly unimpressed. Like so many so called comedians today her stuff is just trash. I'm not sure Mr. Carlin did us a favor with the "7 words". I remember seeing Bill Cosby, carol Burnett and Red Skelton years ago, spent hours laughing myself silly and didn't feel the need for a disinfectant shower after the show
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cosby had no reservations about language in his live standup routines, but he did keep it clean for TV audiences. By the way, I was actually in the audience when Carlin was arrested in Milwaukee for his famous seven words. Later in his career he became more thoughtful and less raunchy.

(Message edited by BillPierce on May 13, 2009)
 

Bob Wall
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I disagree Bill. Carlin was not more thoughtful later. He was just mean, cranky, political, and boring at the end.
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, Bob, I suspect you and I disagree about Carlin's politics, which colors our opinions of his comedy.
 

Bob Wall
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Exactly. Alienating half your audience is not exactly a wise choice for a comic. Carlin ran out of new ideas long ago, and took to ranting about politics to cover for it. But I guess Liberals have a different sense of humor, they think Carlin is funny, and they think it is fine to wish ill health on Rush Limbaugh.

I wonder what the reaction would be if Limbaugh said publicly he wanted Wanda Sikes' heart to fail? now THAT'S FUNNY!...not
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some conservatives think Limbaugh is funny. Well he does bill himself as an "entertainer," usually when he is caught with something really stupid.
 

Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 10334
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bob, there seems to be very little sympathy here for Sykes' remarks about Limbaugh. The consensus is that she was way out of line, and that both she and the White House should apologize for what she said.
 

Robert
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill, I saw Carlin back in the '90s in Tulsa's Old Lady on Brady. He spent the first thirty minutes talking about how people who were against abortion were people he would not want to %$&@ anyway. Thirty minutes, he was not the same Carlin who records I would sneak from my dad's collection an listen to in secret.
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Perhaps I was more willing to discount Carlin's political rants. I thought some of his later musings on human nature were thoughtful and clever.

Bob, it's clear we tend to be more sympathetic toward those who agree with us. I think of Al Franken, with whom I have crossed paths on a couple of occasions. I enjoyed his political comedy, although I was more critical when he left comedy to become a commentator and eventually a politician. I'm not sure if I would have voted for him (or his opponent) if I lived in Minnesota. However, I disagree with what the Republicans are doing to utilize every conceivable legal tactic to deny him his seat in the Senate. I do believe he won, even if by the thinnest of margins possible. Assuming he finally gets there, I will judge him as a senator and politician, not as a comedian.
 

Connie
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Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

and in the other news tonight:
Wanda Sykes Welcomes Twins!USMagazine, May 13, 2009
Related: Wanda Sykes
Wanda Sykes is a new mom!

The comedian (who roasted President Barack Obama at the White House Correspondents Dinner last week) and her wife, Alex, welcomed twins on April 27, her rep confirms to Usmagazine.com.

"All are happy and healthy and at home," Sykes' rep told Us Wednesday.

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