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Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 5738
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While camping last weekend, I exposed our six year old grandson's virgin eyes and ears to the joy that is the "Three Stooges." He was uncontrollably doubled over despite the fact that the episodes were very early (1933) and the boys had not quite hit their great artistic strides yet. (Ted Healy was in some of these shows.) Thus inspired, I have ordered a box set of 20 DVDs covering 190 episodes.

I feel that there are certain bedrock cultural institutions that will need to be preserved and passed on forever. Can anybody debate that these "magnum opera" do not belong in this pantheon?

Well, I have found that very frequently women have a difficult time seeing the glory that is the Stooges, but then they also frequently have a hard time appreciating the aroma of a brew kettle doing what it does best.

PS. Grandpa's first rule of camping: "No pottying outside, yad da da, yad da da, yad da da . . ." Kaleb Listermann





(Message edited by listermann on August 10, 2008)
 

Paul Hayslett
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We've rented a bunch of the "greats" for our kids, including Abbott and Costello, the Marx Brothers, Charlie Chaplin, the Three Stooges, and (when the kids were younger) the Little Rascals. The kids loved all of them. Some stuff is timeless.

We also pulled up some Carole Burnett show skits when Harvey Korman died. I'd forgotten how funny those were. We were all howling.
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We bought a box set of the Dean Martin Variety Show. Absolutely fantastic! The only problem is that a lot of the humor is based on the personalities of the guests. That is all very well and fine for my generation, but our kids can't appreciate it.
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure your grandson will discover any number of humor classics as he grows older. Is Mad magazine still being published? And at least a couple of Mel Brooks' films (Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein) belong on the movie list. Monty Python is there, too.
 

Paul Hayslett
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mad is still in print. My son has a subscription. I'm amazed by how little has changed in 30 years. Spy vs Spy has gone downhill since the original writer died, and Don Martin is gone, but a lot of the rest looks very familiar.

I know exactly what Dan means about Dean Martin. Physical comedy ages well. Cultural references don't. Our kids will connect with, and laugh at, Charlie Chaplin. But when we watched the Pink Panther movies, we had to keep stopping them to explain why certain things were funny in the context of 1970's culture. I had been excited about someday, when the kids are older, introducing them to Airplane and Kentucky Fried Movie. But now I'm pretty convinced that they'll never find those movies nearly as funny as those of us of a certain age do.
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think a few of the Saturday Night Live spinoffs may pass the test of time, at least Animal House, The Blues Brothers and Caddyshack. On the other hand, I suspect the Vacation films will seem dated, as will Planes, Trains and Automobiles and the Eddie Murphy movies. Belushi, Candy and Murray are all physical comedians, although in different ways.

The verdict is still out on Robin Williams. He's immensely talented, but I'm uncertain whether he is timeless. In terms of standup, no one was funnier than Richard Pryor, but his references are almost all cultural.

(Message edited by BillPierce on August 11, 2008)
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is something about the format of shorts that helps the Stooges. They could be absorbed in small quantities without dedicating a long block of time.

Much of SNL can be timeless for this reason.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Watching DVDs while camping????? Why not just stay home?
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LOL! It seemed like a good idea at the time!
 

Vance Barnes
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mad was just pulled from Circuit City shelves bacause there was some fun at their expense in the issue. Then they sheepeshly had to admit that was stupid and re-stock the issue.

No more Don Martin He was my favorite. I loved the way he drew his characters. Expecially the feet/shoes.

Yea, DVD's and camping aren't in the same galaxy with me either. Of course Dan's got the RV which isn't camping anyhow.
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, I have a wife, you know!
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm just tryin' to imagine sitting around the campfire at night by a pristine mountain lake, watching the 3 Stooges....I think I'd be attacked by the other campers! But it might keep the bears away! ;)
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The places I camp at (not pristine mountain lakes), playing the Stooges might bring offers of free beer!

(Message edited by listermann on August 12, 2008)
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, I sympathize. Some women (and probably a few men) just don't appreciate the outdoors. It seems to depend on how they were raised. Unfortunately some parents teach their daughters they are delicate flowers that will wilt if exposed to the elements. My wife tolerates camping on the few occasions we go, but her twin girls are a lost cause. Shortly before we married I took her and the girls, then 11, for a weekend at a nearby county park. We were tenting but had comfortable bedding, good facilities (warm showers, a lake with a nice beach) and the weather was mild (sunny, upper 70s F). I thought it was a great weekend. The girls, however, were all but traumatized by a few mosquitoes and other insects, "noises in the dark" and having to walk 50 yards to a bathroom. Not even DVDs could have salvaged the trip. We haven't taken them camping since.

Even my wife admits her ideal vacation involves no more hardship than having to adjust the thermostat a degree or two, and no more effort than having to raise her finger for someone to bring her another drink. I know one of these years I'm going to have to pay for her riding the bike with me across Iowa (where we stay in a tent) by going on a cruise with her. I suppose that's as much of a nightmare for me as the camping trip was for the girls.

(Message edited by BillPierce on August 11, 2008)
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill, consider an RV! All the comforts of home, anywhere you want.
 

Paul Hayslett
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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

> In terms of standup, no one was funnier than Richard Pryor...

Ah, but I must disagree there. For funniest stand-up ever, I'd have to go with Bob Newhart (with Red Skelton, in his prime, second). We only think of Newhart in his sitcom roles. It's hard to find recordings of straight stand-up. But it's worth the search. No one does deadpan better, and he is the undisputed master of the "one side of the phone conversation" format. See if you can find a copy of him pretending to be an air traffic controller. Just don't try to drink or eat while watching it.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have to admit, the older I get the better an RV sounds. My wife and I used to go camping at some beautiful places every summer, but she's decided she's had it with pit toilets!
 

Dan Listermann
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Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We used ours as more of a mobile motel room for a long time antiquing, genealogy researching and following the daughter's soccer team around, but in doing so, we have developed a taste for simply camping for its own sake. We spent almost two weeks this spring watching the traffic on the Mighty Ohio. We like to entertain the grandson and spend time with the extended family. For our 30th wedding anniversary, we will spend a night in Death Valley on our way to the West Coast. So far this year we have spent 37 nights in it and that will easily double for the rest of the year.


(Message edited by listermann on August 12, 2008)

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