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Wortgames
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Username: Wortgames

Post Number: 91
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi all,

The keg gods have smiled on me, and I now have 22 of the things.

I'm guessing it would be best to keep them all in slow rotation, to keep them 'alive'?

Would it be best to keep them pressurized with iodophor solution in between uses? What about storing them on their sides / upside down to keep the lid and fittings clean?

Should I schedule 'servicing' or just pull them out of the loop if they lose pressure in storage?

Any other tips on how best to manage the fleet?!
Wortgames is an independent home brewer, and has no commercial interests in the brewing arena. In fact, brewing is largely a gadget-based obsession that places a significant burden on his resources.
 

Brandon Dachel
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Username: Brandon

Post Number: 1463
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I disassemble my kegs every once in a while. After a keg has been used 4 or 5 times maybe?

I don't store under pressure or anything like that. After the keg is empty I clean it out and store it in my basement. Not upside down or anything like that.

One caveat, however, I disassemble if the kegs have sat a while before they've been cleaned. Like when you 'loan' someone a keg of homebrew and they return it after letting it sit at room temperature for a week and haven't cleaned it out.
 

Connie
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

when I have a keg to pssssss, I wash out with tap water, inspect for crusty crud (scrub out if visable) then add a tea pot of boiling water..shake upside down then hook back up to my dispenser and empty the boiling water through the tap. Without opening, I store the keg with a plastic grocery bag over the top. YMMV
 

Stephen Deutsch
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

After a thorough cleaning, I store them pressurized with just a tad of sanitizer (like star san, nayy) that can safely be used without rinsing. The pressure keeps a seal for a good long time. It helps if they're purged of reactive O2 - this way they can be immediately called into service when needed.
 

Gary Muehe
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I take mine apart after every use and rinse the keg. Then throw all the parts in the keg and fill with very hot water and some automatic dishwasher detergent. Let soak over night then rinse thoroughly. Reassemble and store. When I have 4 or 5 done like this I fill one with sanitizer and push it over with co2 to the next one via a jumper hose with a "beer out" connector on both ends. When I'm done all the kegs are sanitized and purged with co2, ready for use.
 

Ariel Baez
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Username: Homebru358

Post Number: 71
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm new to the kegging lifestyle also! What PSI should I keep them at when stored?
If you're gonna' brew on - BREW HAPPY!!
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 94
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I say the best way to avoid this storage dilema is to keep them full of beer/wine/mead.

I think I only have 8 and long term storage items are starting to cramp my brewing. I have a mead that is probably a year from peaking but they are almost perfect storage containers.
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-- Frank Zappa
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Post Number: 2274
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no need to rotate kegs in and out of service...decide how many you want to use and replace the orings...the others toss in the basement as is until needed, they won't go anywhere
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tranquil_liza
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Username: Tranquil_liza

Post Number: 224
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you people are some VERY serious drinkers. i have 3 kegs total.

in my cooler....i have two kegs that are filled and tapped with drinkable beer while the 3rd keg sits filled, chilled and carbonated until one of the other two kegs is empty.
 

Connie
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

TL, I have 26 kegs including two 3 gallon and two 10 gallon size. I try to have most filled by this time of year. As the weather warms, I stop brewing and start drinking more. One more brew session planned then all equipment goes into storage and maintanence mode until late Fall.
 

Wortgames
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Username: Wortgames

Post Number: 92
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for all the tips!

I have a question about seals too - all the 'seal kits' I can find just seem to ignore the pressure valve. As most of these kegs have been sitting outside for many years, all the rubber parts have perished, including inside the release valves.

Is it common practise to just replace the whole valve, or can you get the valve rubbers separately? Obviously I have about 5 different types

Also, I haven't dismantled a post yet, but is it necessary to replace the poppets or are there o-rings in them that can be replaced individually? Do all ball-lock posts use the same poppets?
Wortgames is an independent home brewer, and has no commercial interests in the brewing arena. In fact, brewing is largely a gadget-based obsession that places a significant burden on his resources.
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 96
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Under the post you will find the poppet the "gas in" or "beer out" tube. Each of these tubes has a small o-ring. These do not touch the contents of the keg so if they look sound they should be fine.

I have never seen a replacement for the rubber pad on the pressure release valve.

The poppets on all my ball lock kegs are the same. I have seen different ones for sale which may be for pin lock kegs.
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer."
-- Frank Zappa
 

Paul Erbe
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 05-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a good listing of the different parts based on type of keg from our sponsor.
http://www.northernbrewer.com/keg-repair-parts.html
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least, you need a beer."
-- Frank Zappa
 

Vance Barnes
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Post Number: 1552
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are several differt heights and styles of poppets that need to be matched correctly to the type of keg. Don't take them all apart at once and try to piece them back together. It's not unusual to have the wrong poppet in a used keg when you get it.

Best thing I did to keep up with my kegs was to start a log book on what I did to them and when. Oh, and I have all of my kegs and lids numbered.
 

Roger Herpst
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've numbered all of my kegs & lids. I've got 13 kegs, 6 filled at a given time (so far), and I dont want to mix up the parts of 13 kegs, given how much a PITA it was when I mixed up the parts of 2 diff kegs. Also, I try to buy the same brand/model of corny kegs to keep things simple.

Right now I've got 7 of em filled about a third of the way with sanitizer, new o-rings (hardware store, not LHBS), and about 15psi so that when I go to pick a new keg for filling, I'll know that it can hold pressure.

It's still work, but I think it is better than bottling.
 

John Thompson
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Username: Jt100

Post Number: 347
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Like Roger I number all my kegs and lids. A sharpie marker works pretty well. I also store them upside down with the lids off. Another thing I like to do is put a small amount of keg lube on all of the rubber parts before storage.

(Message edited by jt100 on April 06, 2005)