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Scott Morales
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 09-2005
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

heard of kolsch, read about kolsch, seen clips about koln and its love for kolsch, but I've never tried it, but I'd like to.

For those of you familiar with the beers available in the Northeastern States (MA, NH specifically). Do you know of a commercial Kolsch that get's distributed up here?

TIA
Scott
 

Doug Pescatore
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Post Number: 1689
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sam Adams summer ale is the nearst thing to a Kolsch I have seen in Florida. I'm not sure SA summer ale is the same thing each year so that may be hit or miss. The one time I had it it specifically mentioned Kolsch sytle on the label.

-Doug
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Goose Island brews a summer koelsch, but I tend to doubt it makes it to New England.
 

Hallertauer
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Post Number: 326
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've had an easy time finding it in Köln. Just a 2 hour train ride North of here.
 

Beertracker
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm not sure about MA or NH, but to my knowledge the only two traditional Kölsch beers that are available in NA are Gaffel & Reissdorf. There's some really good microbrewed examples, but many aren't distributed outside their particular region.
CHEERS! Beertracker

"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers

 

Chumley
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Come to my office open house this afternoon, I will be tapping a keg of Fix's Bonn Bonn Kolsch recipe (along with APA and Belgian Strong Golden Ale). I tasted a sample yesterday and although it is similar to Reissdorf, it is not as good as Pacman's Black Widow Kolsch recipe.

Unfortunately, I am not in the Northeast, but in the snow-covered Rocky Mountains.
 

Beertracker
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I brew a "rogue" variant of Fix's Bonn-Bonn as my house Kölsch as well. I call mine Dom-Dom, because a Dom, Dom like me can brew it!

BTW - How's the wise-cracking penguin Tennessee Tuxedo doing?
CHEERS! Beertracker

"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers

 

Chumley
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Come to my office open house this afternoon, I will be tapping a keg of Fix's Bonn Bonn Kolsch recipe (along with APA and Belgian Strong Golden Ale). I tasted a sample yesterday and although it is similar to Reissdorf, it is not as good as Pacman's Black Widow Kolsch recipe.

Unfortunately, I am not in the Northeast, but in the snow-covered Rocky Mountains.
 

Doug Pescatore
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Post Number: 1691
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chumley brew with Aluminum pots, please forgive.
 

Scott Morales
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 09-2005
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Funny guys, funny guys:0)

Sure go ahead and tease a poor bastard whose constrained by kolsch-less distribution ...go ahead... whatever makes ya happy ;0)

seriously it sounds like the only way to try a kolsch is to brew your own. Any good recipe's that anyone would like to share? Pacman's Black Widow Kolsch perhaps? anyone? anyone?
 

Paul Erbe
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My office is also having a party today and they asked me to buy the beer. I hate doing this because I always am forced to choose what others would want to drink rather than what I want to drink. I ended up with:

SNCA
Bell's Best Brown Ale
Stella Artios(I know but one woman in the office asked for it)
Flying Dog Golden Ale

and form the Craft Brew Section at Binny's

Pabst Blue Ribbon
OK I love the Zappa quote but it is getting old.
 

Pacman
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Post Number: 742
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here in Indiana I have only seen two actual Kölsch being sold. Gaffel and Reissdorf... To me the Reissdorf, atleast the stuff that gets sent to the US, is an average beer.. nothing special. The Gaffel is much better... If you can't find either of those then you can just brew a Klösch at home... I've not tried the Bonn Bonn recipe yet but i'm a little biased towards this one:

Black Widow Klösch Recipe

Black Widow Klösch ProMash .rec file
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!
 

damon
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/85/

Scott, I'm sure some of these can be found near you, thought most Kolsch I ever see (and its rare to see it) is from brewpubs.

Geary's Summer Ale is available near you. Bottles would be a little old now, though.
 

Dan Listermann
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Chris, I seemed to have been blocked from those sites. Maybe see if Scott knows anything about it. Can you post the recipes for your Kolsch?

Dan

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Pacman
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Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brewing Method: All Grain
Yeast: WhiteLabs 029 German Ale (Kolsch)
Yeast Starter: Of course
Batch Size: 6
Original Gravity: 1.047
Final Gravity: 1.010
Alcohol Content: 4.9 %
Total Grains: 9 lbs
Color: 3.3
Extract Efficiency: 83 %
Hop IBU's: 24
Boiling Time: 70 minutes
Primary Fermentation: 14 days @ 62°
Secondary Fermentation: 4 weeks @ 34°
Additional Fermentation:

Grain Bill:

7.75 Pilsner
1.00 Wheat
0.25 HoneyMalt

Hop Bill:

1.0 Hallertauer Tradition 6.4%AA Whole 60 min.
0.2 Saaz 3.8%AA Whole 15 min.
0.2 Saaz 3.8%AA Whole 5 min.

Mash Schedule:

122° 10 min
134° 15 min
152° 60 min
168° 20 min

Brewers Notes:

Notice there is no VIENNA malt!!!

I use 1.5qts per pound at half and half RO water/tap water for the mash. I add about 1/2 tsp CaCl to help with the pH. The Sparge water is usually whatever RO water I have left and some tap water to make up the difference. The step mash and the long cold conditioning/lagering helps with the clarity.

The very first Kolsch I made I used vienna malt in the grain bill. The kolsch was alright but it wasn't exactly as it should be. It was a little too rich and malty. A Kolsch should be a nicely balanced beer that may lean a little towards the bitternes side. The Vienna pushed it too far to the malty side. A little over two years later I brewed another Kolsch this time I had a better idea of what a Kolsch should be like. My Mom and Stepdad took a trip to Germany and brought me back a couple of Kolschs' and they were WONDERFUL. I was hooked on the style once I tasted those. I read what ever I could find on Kolsch and came up with this basic recipe. I have experimented with varying ammouts of finishing hops with this recipe but this version has been brewed the most.
Damn Brewing's Fun!!!! Kölsch Krusader!