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The Beav
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 09-2003
Posted From: 132.58.234.102
Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I know from reading many posts that we (as a homebrew community) seem to prefer Ultra-flo over Perlick. Heck even B3 advertises their Perlick as ďA temporary replacement until we can get Ultra-Flo faucets back in stockĒ. Donít get me wrong, I own a an Ultra-flo and like it very much. But last week I ordered a Perlick instead of a second Ultra-flo in an attempt to save $10. In a side by side comparison I donít see much difference. So why the Perlick prejudice? Are they made by little Malaysian children who get paid a quarter for a 20 hour work day?

Beav
 

Mike A.
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 10-2003
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have two perlick faucets and have never had any problems with them, would definitly buy them again.

I believe the biggest difference comes when pouring highly carbonated beers as the Perlicks reportedly foam more.
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Post Number: 475
Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The original ultra flo and the perlick are the same faucet, same design, etc. who's ever camp you are in will tell you that one stole from the other blah blah blah. The new ultra flo was purported to be bought out by Shirron but I have no data to support that statement.
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Tim Polster
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Username: Bassman

Post Number: 213
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike is right on.

I switched from the Perlicks to the Ventmatics because of foaming with higher carbonation levels and the Ventmatics performed much better.

The Perlicks were fine, I just think the Ventmatics have a little more to offer, especially with the interchangeable spouts.
 

Connie
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Post Number: 837
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm pleased with my three Perlicks and think they do a good job.
I ordered three Ultra-flo faucets when they came available (this time) and have them in my brewroom, taking up space on a shelf.
I haven't dealt with the Perlick Company, mine came from Superior, but I have dealt with the Ultra-flo people...makes me think maybe I'll buy more Perlicks and get rid of the Ultra-flos
 

Mike Rotert
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is a difference between the 2 faucets. The quality of the parts is superior on the Ventmatic. Also the bore size in the faucet body is larger on the Ventmatic which is why some people have reported issues with foaming with the Perlicks.

Of course, I'm biased....
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 319
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Connie,

I will help you tidy up your brewroom by taking your ultra-flos off your shelf. send me an e-mail if you want to get rid of them.
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

Richard Nye
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Post Number: 1667
Registered: 01-2004
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike, what's the inside story with Ultra Flo? What happened to them? Will they ever be back in business? Is the Shirron faucet identical to the UF? And will Shirron also supply the replacement nozzles?
 

Mike Rotert
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Post Number: 9
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Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you really want all the gory details, send me an email. Its a loooooong story. Yes, the faucets are the same. In fact the faucets are made from the original tooling that I have always owned.

I have all of the different sizes of spouts. I am just trying to figure out what to do with them all.
 

Connie
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Post Number: 839
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Bob, I'm not ready to bail out just yet, but I'll keep you in mind. I have (another) chest freezer coming in the next couple weeks or so. I'll make a decision when I get it. BTW I'm in Lawrenceville. Once worked at Lucent in Sandy Springs
 

J. Steinhauer
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am also happy with my Perlicks. UF's were not available, when I did some upgrades on the beerchest, so I did not have a choice. To qualify, I carbonate almost everything at Real Ale levels.

J. Steinhauer
 

Bob Girolamo
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Post Number: 273
Registered: 06-2002
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike are you still going to offer the gold faucets and spouts? Also, I'd be interested in the gory details that befell Brad. He seemed like a knowledgable guy. I know he was sick for a while and all of the Typhoon overseas manufacturing issues.
Ask not what your country can brew for you but, what you can brew for your country!

 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Post Number: 477
Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike - dont get me wrong - here. I am a proud owner of 6 Ultra Flo and 3 flow gates. Never once had a problem. What I meant by saying they were the same faucet was that they have the same design (obviously there are subtle nuances, But the are made of the same material (all stainless) and both have the overall same appearence. The only thing I wish I had still were the two excel files that I was sent by Brad at ventmatic. These were for hose restriction and co2 levels. Golden information that was and Brad is a font of knowledge.
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Mike Rotert
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bob..I can't really get into the details about all of this, but I can assure you that the factory didn't get hit by a Typhoon as I was just there last month. The faucets are the same design because I was the one building them for Ultra-flo.

I have the 2 files that you are talking about. I'll send them to you if you like. Just let me know.

Cheers!
 

Mike Rotert
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Almost forgot....

We are going to be offering the gold colored faucets in a couple of weeks. The faucets are made to look gold through a process called PVD. The process won't touch the beer and it tough as nails.
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Post Number: 479
Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike you can either send me them or post them here for all to us.
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Mike Rotert
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2006
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sent!
 

Pete Mazurowski
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Post Number: 289
Registered: 07-2003
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mike, just out of curiosity, who's doing the PVD work for you? I work for a very large PVD company, but my location (South Carolina) doesn't do decorative work. We have locations in Oregon and North Carolina that handle everthing deco.

I assume you're coating them with titanium nitride?

(Message edited by pete maz on October 06, 2006)
 

Mike Rotert
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Pete,
Its an outfit located in Taiwan. This process really floors me. The supplier showed me some of the plastic parts that they are using the process on and they looked just like metal.

I have no idea if they are using titanium nitride, all I know is that the parts are very pretty!

Cheers!
Mike
 

Pete Mazurowski
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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yeah, I've seen some of the work that's done in our NC plant, and it's pretty amazing. Door knobs, faucets, guns, medical implants and everything in between. Everyone assumes a brass faucet actually has a polished brass finish, but it's really a PVD coating. We've even got a process that will grow diamond films, but the market's pretty limited for that stuff.