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Randy Hamm
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Username: Hamm

Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2006
Posted From: 12.218.128.67
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I need a grain mill... Any thoughts on the CnS CGM-2A package... includes hopper and mount for $139...

www.crankandstein.com/cgm-bcc.htm

Hamm
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 750
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 12.27.22.67
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do a search there have been a number of discussion just recently on their products. Most reports are that they are top notch. I have an older model, 2001 maybe, that goes like a champ.
 

MacGregor Outkast
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Username: Macgregor

Post Number: 99
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.249.73.221
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do it... Do it....
 

Ken Anderson
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Post Number: 1801
Registered: 11-2002
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only negative I've heard is that if you motorize it, you don't have the option of flopping the rollers to match the rotation of the gear motor, if needed.
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 584
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 72.4.22.214
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only negative I've heard is that if you motorize it, you don't have the option of flopping the rollers to match the rotation of the gear motor, if needed.

Ya know, I'm gonna check as soon as I get home. I'm not completely sure that's true. It might be, but I swear when I had my apart Sunday the bearing races where the same. Now mine is the 3 roller version and it might be different on the 2 roller version.
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 503
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 139.76.128.71
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ken is correct. The drive shaft of the CnS must turn clockwise and is not reversible. The other thing to be aware of is motorizing can be troublesome if you use the hopper Don provides. I have a 1725 RPM motor and have to use a 1-1/2" sheave on the motor and a 10" sheave on the mill. This reduces the speed to roughly 200 RPM.

The problem I encountered was that the hopper and the 10" sheave occupy the same space. Don was able to hook me up with a 3/8" to 1/2" extender he made special for a LBHS that no longer uses it. But that is a one-of-a-kind gizmo and if you motorize, you will have to build your own hopper or modify the mounting board Don provides.

I will be completing construction of my stand this weekend. I will post photos.
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

MacGregor Outkast
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

just turn the motor around... hehe..
 

dhacker
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Post Number: 586
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mac, that will work, but then the motor would impinge on the grain bucket that I assume everyone wants to catch the finished product in!
 

MacGregor Outkast
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Post Number: 103
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

not if you relocate the motor to the top and use a sheave..

(Message edited by MacGregor on November 21, 2006)
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 504
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My motor is going to go under my bucket. The belt will be shielded in a void space in the "rear" of the stand leaving only the top of the 10" sheave exposed. I may even build a housing to protect any fingers that find their way to the moving sheave.

I want to pretend like I am sick so I can go home and work on it tonight!

But I won't.
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

dhacker
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Post Number: 587
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

not if you relocate the motor to the top and use a sheave..

True . . .

Well, there ya go Randy . . all arguments against buying a CrankandStein have now been resolved!
 

MacGregor Outkast
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

would you rather have a mill with reversible rollers that you will probably have to have serviced at some point (even tho it's guaranteed for life), or design for a mill with rollers that will probably last a lifetime (even tho it's guaranteed for life)...
 

Randy Hamm
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Username: Hamm

Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2006
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Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for all of your responses. I get a little anal when making a purchase and want to get all info to make an informed decision. It seems the CnS 3 roller is the ticket. And as MacGregor Outkast puts it... Do it!!!

Thanks guys, Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Randy Hamm
 

Yam
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Username: Yam

Post Number: 138
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 75.128.80.124
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK now that Randy is resolved, I have been trying to figure out what to put on my christmas list, CnS Vs. Barley Crusher. I know there was a post comparing models recently, does anyone have any side by side comparison/impressions? I don't think I will be throwing a motor on it any time soon. Thanks for any input.
 

Sand
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Username: Sand

Post Number: 257
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 209.173.170.10
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I love my jsp.
 

Skotrat
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Username: Skotrat

Post Number: 2438
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 24.128.118.170
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yam,

Honestly... I think that if you go with a CnS, Barley Crusher, JSP, used Valley Mill or even a PhilMill II you cannot go wrong.

It really boils down to what you want, what you like and the that speaks to you when you are looking at them.

My Adjustable JSP has given me years of fantastic service.

For me; looking forward and after seeing a CrankandStein first hand as well as meeting the guy that makes them I believe the CnS Model 3D is the next mill that I buy.

So do you research and try to get a hands on look at all the mills that you are thinking about.

-Scott

edited to change ooking to looking

(Message edited by skotrat on November 22, 2006)
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- Rudyard Kipling
 

Tom Meier
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Username: Brewdawg96

Post Number: 424
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with Scott, they are all well-made mills with warranties, each with their own pluses/minuses. Go with the features and price you want.
 

Ken Anderson
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Post Number: 1808
Registered: 11-2002
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Over and over on all the boards I hear the same sentiments that Scott and Tom have stated. It's a toss up. You can't go wrong with any of the front runners.
 

Dan Listermann
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Post Number: 3695
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Scott,"even a PhilMill II you cannot go wrong. "

WOW !

Dan

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Ken Anderson
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Username: Ken75

Post Number: 1812
Registered: 11-2002
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Feel the love.
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 506
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan,

Trade him a Phil Mill for his Peristaltic pump...
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

Yam
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, I just wanted to ask since it seems I have not heard much from any Barley Crusher owners on the recent threads.