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ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 1745
Registered: 01-2003
Posted From: 71.195.244.40
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Man it was cold today.!!
I brewed that Drews CACA. and buddy brewed his pale.
IT was low 20's the whole time. Froze up my water glass and the dogs water while brewing. Cooldowns were a snap. Overcooled my buddys 2nd extract batch of pale ale (his wife likes coors light). Hit 52 before I checked the temps. Went from steam to cool in like 5 mins. Total coling time was about 15 mins for 5 gals and 25 for 10. I hope 2 oz of Ultra for 40 mins will be ok with her?? His first batch is ready to bottle( an amber ale). He used 1056 today.
I used WL840 big 1/2+gal starters.
We hope to use these WL840 yeast cakes to make some nice buddy brew day lagers in about 10-14 days. Chumley might get a chance yet.

I still need to go clean out the BK. I have hot water in the garage. No sun today was the problem. Usually when its that cold and sunny the East side of my house gets like a ski lodge deck on spring break but not today. I had to wear the camo jumpsuit all day. Of course the sun is trying to shine now.
I do have an ice rink out back now.
I hit my volumes well but should have added a few degrees to my strike water temp plus aim for the right temp of 158 instead of 155. I should have used 181 instead of 175. I only hit 151.7 in the mash and it dropped to 149 over the hour???
I did get the temp up to 159 for a 15 min in my second batch sparge. I did 3 batch sparges basically. I did check for conversion using Iodine and no black. Heres the grain bill. The recipe called for 144 rest and 158 mash. I don't like steps and in promash I plugged in my standard target of 155?? Ouch. Should have read the recipe first and then added about 2-3 degrees fudge factor to promash numbers on this cold day.

77.5 7.75 lbs. Pale Malt(6-row)
22.5 2.25 lbs. Flaked Corn (Maize)
I hit a nice OG of 1.055
Rip them lips!
 

Paul Hayslett
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Username: Paulhayslett

Post Number: 1193
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 71.234.46.245
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can you please send some of that cold weather this way? In the 50's right now and will be in the 60's tomorrow when I'll be brewing. It's supposed to be 30F cooler this time of year. I can't make anything that need to cold-condition before bottling. The kids got new sleds for Christmas but they should have gotten new bikes instead. Bleah. I hate global warming.
"God bless us all, every one."
 

Fredrik
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Username: Fredrik

Post Number: 3549
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 213.114.44.230
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Elk, sorry for asking but can you explain the expression "rip them lips"? It has bugged for a number of posts now :-)

/Fredrik
 

Steve H.
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Username: Steveh

Post Number: 141
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.78.86.68
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To your question. YES!

Steve
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 6182
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 03:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The high here today in southern Ontario was 56 F, a record for the date, although it rained. I've been told some of the trees are budding way too early and may suffer some damage when the inevitable hard freeze occurs. The ski areas a couple of hours north of here have laid off their staff because it's too warm to make snow. In short, it's just plain eerie to see some green in the grass during the first week of January in what is supposedly the Great White North. If you haven't seen "An Inconvenient Truth," I recommend renting it. Global warming is a reality.
 

Mike
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Username: Macker

Post Number: 293
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 65.19.225.131
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is brewing always better than work??

yes, unless you are a gigolo
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 1748
Registered: 01-2003
Posted From: 71.195.244.40
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

steve, you mean the 2 oz of hops for a coors light drinker?

Fredrik, it is a saying about fly fishing and hooking trout. Sorry to say but even fly fishing hurts the fish IMHO. I try to be gentle and release 98% of the fish I land.
Rip them lips!
 

Steve H.
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Username: Steveh

Post Number: 142
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.78.86.68
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are hops in Coors Light? Go Figure!
 

Rob Farrell
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Username: Robf

Post Number: 367
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 69.138.242.154
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure Steve was answering the question in your subject line. 2 oz. of hops will give a Coors Light drinker the "bitter beer face."
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 1947
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 68.4.202.69
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure the amount of concrete and roofing that covers our land, and the pollutants we continue to push into the air has a detrimental affect on our environment.

But, while this year has been unusually warm, in the 3 years I just spent in Boston, one was a record cold year, one had record snowfall accumulation, and the third had a one time record snowfall.

It's hard to base a trend on just one year.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 6189
Registered: 01-2002
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know, Richard. I may be misquoting Al Gore, but I believe the three warmest years on record (for about 150 years now) have all occurred in the past 15 years.

I grew up in Michigan just slightly south in terms of latitude from where I live now, and as a kid I distinctly recall the ground being white, with perhaps one interruption for a thaw, from about December 1 to March 15. We had a pond; there was only one year with a short skating season, and the single Christmas without snow was cause for wonder.

Last winter I shoveled snow from my driveway and sidewalks only twice, something my older longtime Canadian neighbours said was unprecedented. Of the past five Christmases here, only one had significant snow on the ground and a second but a dusting. At the moment the first week of January is nearly over, the temperature is currently 50 F, there is some green in the grass and the total snowfall so far this season has been less than an inch, which occurred on three occasions and melted within hours.

I realize there are anomalies and isolated incidents. This year Buffalo (60 miles from me) got hit with a record mid-October near-blizzard, and you could see white on the ridgetops across Lake Ontario about 15 miles from my window. But overall you can't tell me there hasn't been a climate change.
 

Andy Hancock
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Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 184
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 143.183.121.4
Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill,

Last Summer was one of the coolest I can remember. We only had 1 hot spell (100's), but most of the time it was in the 80's. This winter has been cold just like last winter. I haven't noticed any increase in temperatures here in the San Francisco bay area.

Maybe only certain areas have “global” warming.
 

davidw
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Username: Davidw

Post Number: 1679
Registered: 03-2001
Posted From: 65.163.6.62
Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some environmental geologist would tell you that rather than global warming we are simply coming to the end of the Holocene. The Holocene being an interglacial period. An increase in temperature and precipitation always preceed the next glacial event. Unfortunately we (humans) like to try and quantify everything in our time, while mother earth has a much grander clock. I would say in a few more hundred years we will have a better idea of what exactly has occured in 2006. Hindsight is the only real way you can make a 100% accurate statements about the environment (unfortunately). Basically, we'll never be able to predict the weather. Too many variables, natural and human, are at work and our way of thinking is too limited to what we are experiencing in the here and now.

These are just the thoughts of one former geo-archaeologist to be accepted or rejected at your leisure.

And, the one time I had the opportunity to shake Al Gore's hand he had a drop of snot hanging from the tip of his nose. I find it hard to accept the assumptions of a man who doesn't even carry a hanky. ;-)
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 2598
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Basically, we'll never be able to predict the weather"

Yea, I've found "The Week in Review" is the only accurate thing on the Weather Channel.

Whatever they decide is going on in the future it is just weird weather we're having in GA. We had tornados Friday and Sunday in the ATL area. Not typical Jan weather. More like March and April.

Sounds like I should be plannning a ski trip to Alta this winter from Elk's weather report. Of course by the time I got there it would be in the 60's probably.
 

Jeff Preston
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Username: Jeffpreston

Post Number: 227
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 206.45.166.57
Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll gladly send you some -20C weather and possibly a couple feet of snow.
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 644
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 139.76.128.71
Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is my wife's SUV also causing the polar ice cap on Mars to melt? Somehow, that has to be our fault too, right? what does the inventor of the internet have to say about temperature fluctuations emanating from the Sun?
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

Jon Steinhauer
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Username: Jstein6870

Post Number: 1033
Registered: 03-2002
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If it was made into a movie, it must be true!

All of you who burn propane, turn on the furnace, turn on the air conditioner, eat beef also contribute.

I would bet that Mr. Gore's carbon footprint is 10 times bigger than the cumulative footprint of those on this board.

Where does one draw the line? Drive more efficient vehicle, fly private jet across country, lower your furnace temperature and burn high efficiency light bulbs, have 10 climate controlled mansions with manicured grounds.
Steinhauer
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 648
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I farted. Just felt compelled to make another contribution
Give a man a beer and he'll waste an hour. Teach a man to brew and he'll waste a lifetime.
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This weather debate should be elsewhere, huh?

Anyway, 40 years of weather on this planet is like the change of gravity in an ale from 2 days after pitching, to 2 days + 1 millisecond. Now my post is beer related.

My 2 cents.
 

Tom Gardner
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Username: Tom

Post Number: 929
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I vote YES! A bad day brewing is always better than a good day at work. Tom
 

Fredrik
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Username: Fredrik

Post Number: 3556
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 62.20.8.114
Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

> Fredrik, it is a saying about fly fishing and hooking trout. Sorry to say but even fly fishing hurts the fish IMHO. I try to be gentle and release 98% of the fish I land.

Fly fishing?? I see. I guess I just have a dirty imagination.

/Fredrik
 

ELK
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Username: Elkski

Post Number: 1755
Registered: 01-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats good fredrik! even my gutter mind has never gone there. It is a saying you see on bumper stickers and t-shirts out west in trout fishing areas.
for a very accurate snow report I have to admit Alta.com is very accurate. Some resorts stretch the snow totals but Alta is true and their forcasts for the next 24 hour snows are pretty good too.
This year the ski areas have much less than the past 2 banner pre new years snow totals but the season really starts now.
A beer a day keeps the Mormons away!!
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 1228
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.28.172
Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is brewing always better than work??

Well, since I don't work anymore, I can't directly answer the question.