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Pacman
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Username: Pacman

Post Number: 871
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 98.227.19.82
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think I found a way around making a starter for lagers... I found some WL833 Bock Yeast on my doorstep today...

WL833 Bock Yeast

I think I am ready to brew a few lagers... woohoo...
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 6756
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 74.92.175.78
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is that a quart????
 

Pacman
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Username: Pacman

Post Number: 872
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 98.227.19.82
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's a 1bbl pitch of yeast... 300mL...
 

Mike
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Username: Macker

Post Number: 497
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 151.151.21.100
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pac, that is sweet! A good friend of mine brews at a BP and he will occasionally send me one of those bad boys, albeit taken from one of his ferments. That is the schniz for lagers....
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 3176
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 74.7.7.66
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just curious, how much does it cost to not make a starter?
 

Pacman
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Username: Pacman

Post Number: 873
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 98.227.19.82
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heya Mike! I suppose I could try to go down to Indy and find a brewpub to get some yeast from but I don't really make it down there anymore... I live one hour from and work about two hours from Indy now.. It's just not possible for me to make it on a weeknight and weekends are way too busy...

Vance, that cost $90... but the thing is I am going to be doing a marathon brew session this weekend... I am hoping to have 5-6 fermentors filled and in the chest freezer and there is no way I could build that much yeast up myself in the time frame I want... I would like to have 6g each of Dunkel, Schwartz, Helles, Either a Dort or N.German Pils or both and an Ofest....
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 1100
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 64.233.251.195
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lets see

3 weeks in priamry,
6-8 weeks lagering,


Party at Pac's July 19th. I'll bring a bag of chips.
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 3181
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 74.7.7.66
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I see, so that's more than enough for what all you're brewing this weekend if it's for 1 bbl. Would be a good purchase for a club doing a Big Brew this weekend.

Send directions for the July 19th parte
 

Hophead
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Username: Hophead

Post Number: 2767
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 167.4.1.41
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

$90? Seems a little steep (to me), as that's 15 vials, but it's instant lager ready! Sounds like a blast.

I am curious what size container they ship you (and the cost) for their convenient 200bbl size!

I am going to try to brew saturday with cal common; stepping it up tonite...
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 3183
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 74.7.7.66
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"I am curious what size container they ship you (and the cost) for their convenient 200bbl size! "

I've seen 5 gal. White Labs buckets in the brewpubs around here before. If Pacman's was $90 for 1 bbl, then 200 X that is $18,000.

Sure there is probably a big price break for the quantity but that's still gotta be a huge investment. I can see why conicals and reusing the yeast as long as possible is so attractive to breweries.
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 1511
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 139.76.64.66
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We would use ours for 25 generations before staring a new one.
 

Pacman
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Username: Pacman

Post Number: 874
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 98.227.19.82
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

$90 is a bit steep but i'm not a patient person and I want to brew a lot this weekend and don't have time to build up that much yeast. If viles sell for $7 each, not counting shipping, then that is just under 13 viles. Not enough for 5-6 batches. I am wanting these beers ready for the State Fair and entries are due by June 28th. Should be enough time.

Besides, I will reuse a lot of this yeast so that $90 becomes even less per batch. If I really get motivated I could boil some distilled water to save some of the yeast under for future use also.

The State Fair was my main motivation for this but I was also thinking about experimenting a bit... I was going to mash a bunch of Pils by itself in one mashtun, a bunch of Munich in another and steep some Special B, Carafa in another and then basically blend to make the Helles, N.German Pils, Schwartz and Dunkel... It seemed like it would be an interesting thing to try but I may just do individual mashes for these the first time and when I repitch on the yeast later I can try the blending method. I would have a base beer to compare with at that point.