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KeepBrewing
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Username: Kb7

Post Number: 312
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

has anyone ever made a lager with northern brewer hop or fuggle hops?
 

Paul Erbe
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Post Number: 1124
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

According to Hop Union NB is one of the main Alpha varieties in Germany and they make a few Lagers.
 

KeepBrewing
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Username: Kb7

Post Number: 313
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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK I will check out Hop union nb thanks
only what is hop union nb?

(Message edited by kb7 on June 21, 2008)
 

Dave Witt
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Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 03:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I made a Steam beer once that was a lager, with NB.

Hop Union is a hop grower/distributor. NB is short for Northern Brewer.
 

KeepBrewing
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Username: Kb7

Post Number: 314
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Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess no one in this chat room has ever made a lager with NB or Fuggles? hummmm
 

Graham Cox
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Lager" could mean anything from a Lite American Lager (a style I am growing rather fond of ) to a Baltic Porter - in other words, weak to strong, straw to almost black. What kind of lager are you thinking of using them in?

Fuggles is an English variety that is typically used in ales, and, as everyone knows, Fuggles taste like dirt.

Northern Brewer is the signature hop in Anchor Steam, the definitive example of the California Common ("steam beer") style. I'm sure many, if not most, of us have made California Commons, as Dave noted above. California Common is a lager, but it is fermented with a special yeast at 60-ish degrees F instead of the more typical 50-ish degrees used for other lager fermentations. So yes, I'm sure most of us have used Northern Brewer in that particular style of lager.

I think NB could be successfully used as the bitter in practically any lager, but for the hoppy styles (e.g. German Pils or Bo-Pils), I think you'd still want to go with a noble or noble-hybrid hop. Certainly not Fuggles. Did I mention that they taste like dirt?
 

The Jolly Brewer
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Graham doesn't like fuggles.

I say try it.
 

Chumley
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have use Northern Brewer as a bittering hop in many types of lagers, including pils (german and CAP), bock, o'fest, and dunkel. Can't say I have ever tried them alone in a lager, or as flavor/aroma additions. I would think in a low hopped lager like a helles, dunkel, or bock, they would be okay.
 

KeepBrewing
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Username: Kb7

Post Number: 315
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Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chummy, did the lager turn out the way you wanted it with NB?
I found an interesting recipe in extreme brewing that uses NB and Fuggles. Sour cherry ale fermented with ESB yeast.
I guess it would not hurt to make a steam.
I have not experienced dirt with fuggles how ever I do not doubt gram has experienced it with his batch. I found in large amounts it has a type of tobacco taste in it. Not ash tray
tobacco
I think I am thinking like chumley a darker ale like lager