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Andy Hancock
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Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 234
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 192.55.52.9
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any news on the 2008 crop(s)?
Is the 2008 hop yield expected to be low like last year?
When can we expect them to be available for purchase?

I have enough hops for about 6 or 7 5-gallon batches. I won’t be brewing again until the Fall, so I should be fine for a while

Andy
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 6870
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 63.114.138.2
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

From what I hear, it doesn't look too bad. But there will be no low alpha hops and lots of new varieties. Harvest will likely begin in a few weeks.
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 3336
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 74.7.7.66
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was just in the lhbs at lunch and was discussing with the owner that he had more stock this year than he's ever had before. He had European saaz that was over 4%, strisselspalt, probably 4-5 English varieties, some new varieties like Vangaurd and a couple others, and even an Argentenian cascade. That was all in packets on the wall and in the fridge he had lots of the American Plug varieties. He was getting ready to order 22 lbs of Hall. hersberker (sp?) and could get some Hall. nuggett that I've never heard of. Now the 22 lb of Hall. hersberker was at over $50/lb in that quantity but they were available. His stock was pittifull last Nov-ish but he got busy and found hops. He did have to buy some quantities and put out some good sums of $ up front but the supply has been great all year.

Glad to hear the PNW harvest looks good but it did last year as well. Other than the continued decrease in acerage. It was all the other production regions around the world that had disasters that caused the problem. Along with a weak $ where the EU brewers could come buy up our hops cheaper than they could buy their domestic ones (if there were any).

Andy, if it's like usuall the new crop probably won't hit the retail market until 2009. Maybe some in Dec.
 

Steve Pierson
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Username: Stevepierson

Post Number: 376
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 66.162.131.35
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Talked to a hop grower in Idaho last week. They will start harvest around August 25th. He thought yields would be good, but not great. We had a cold spring which set back early growth on a lot of crops.
 

Mike
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Username: Macker

Post Number: 511
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 151.151.21.105
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think the critical piece in this is not neccesarily the yield of this harvest, but whether or not the loss of overall hop acreage has been stemmed. That is the more critical piece in the equation. Any new acreage that went into production this year will be at best another year away from significant yields.

(Message edited by Macker on August 12, 2008)
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 5749
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.29.223.32
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It would be nice if we did not burn up a significant percentage of our hops in a warehouse fire this year.
 

Jerrod Scott
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Username: Jrod

Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2008
Posted From: 12.180.1.66
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 04:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Farmers always over-plant..er..come through. I assure you the total acreage increased this year without even knowing what it is. Also, while the yield is lower from a first year plant, it isn't nothing...maybe a third. Some high alpha varieties (the varieties planted by the way) yield 2/3 normal. This will help ease the extract problem. Big brewers who are locked in on contracts have been holding on to hops they know they will not use due to the shortage and will start to dump their excess on the market soon--depending on the harvest. The "Hop Crisis of '08" will begin to ease this year and ease (colapse) more next year due to current planting and speculation. If you want hops I'll sell at $3/oz...I'll stake my stash I'm right.
 

Andy Hancock
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Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 235
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 192.55.52.9
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks everyone,

It sounds like good news.All my winter beers are gonna be US versions with C type hops. Since I love Cascades it's OK with me, but a change will be nice by next spring.

Andy
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 6873
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 140.211.82.4
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Washington/Publications/Agri-facts/ agri1jun.pdf
 

Robert
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 138.32.32.166
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, what is the differnece between Galena and Super Galena? One is 13%AA and the other is like what 50%