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Little Dipper
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Post Number: 485
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Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So who's going to be there this year? This will be my first one and my first trip to the SF area. I'm looking forward to it.

Good news/bad news - my wife is pregnant (how did that happen?) so my dad is taking her spot at the conference with me. He's not a homebrewer, but he certainly likes to taste beer.
 

mark taylor
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Post Number: 280
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I plan on going to the homebrewers night (friday) but still haven't figured out where to stay. I may end up sleeping in my van.;(
mark
www.backyardbrewer.blogspot.com
www.thebackyardbrewer.com
 

Bob D
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Down by the river?
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll be there. Our club is serving in the hospitality suite on Fri. from 11:30AM-1PM if anybody wants to stop by and say hi.
 

Chumley
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Post Number: 5839
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I will be floating down the scenic Smith River that weekend, sipping on ice cold PBRs in a can.
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 7226
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds great, Chumley....
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Less filling.
 

Jeff Rankert
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We will be getting into town on Tuesday night. We know the City, but not Oakland. Plan to make it to some of our favorites in the City if we can before the conf.

Going to Yosemite after the conf. to do some hiking.
 

Little Dipper
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Post Number: 486
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Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, I'll certainly try to swing by during that time. Is there any king of posted schedule for the hospitality suite? I don't see anything now, but maybe it'll be available at the conference.
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 7227
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Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The only schedule I've seen so far is the one they sent out to the clubs manning the bars. We'll have about 8 kegs and several cases of bottles of funky Belgian styles beers.
 

Tom Meier
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Results are up:
http://www.beertown.org/events/nhc/recent_winners.html

Don't recognize any B&Vers.. Graham, what the hell?..did you lose your double boil kettle mojo?

My Nashville brewbuds scored a silver for their latest barrel project - a Belgian Dark Strong in what else, but a Jack Daniel's barrel.

The secret for infection free barrel brewing is to rinse the whiskey and bugs out with 30 gallons of boiling water.

Congrats to the winners!
 

Steve Jones
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What?? You didn't see Jeff Rankert's Gold Medal for American Barleywine?

Congratulations, Jeff! I'd love to try that one.
 

Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 10482
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You also missed Jeffrey Swearengin with his gold for Traditional Mead. Congratulations to him and to Jeff Rankert!
 

Jeff Swearengin
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks Bill! My beers got spanked, but at least my Tupelo got rewarded. I'm sorry your Aussie-inspired Sparkling Ale didn't medal. Hopefully the judges at least interpreted it correctly when evaluating it? iT looks like Mark Heise was the sole Canadian winner this year with his English IPA. Congrats to the other B&Vers! Sorry Graham...
 

Jeff Rankert
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 06-2008
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 04:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A gold was beyond my realistic hopes. We were really geeked by that. First time that we have placed in the NHC.

FYI, the Barleywine was also listed as the 2nd runner up in the best of show. Really humbled by that.

Ken Grossman was the keynote speaker (good talk BTW, full of SN history). He also approached the NHC about having the first place winners attend their beer camp (he touched on this during his talk). This will be 2 days at the brewery, in September. The second day will be a brew session with the SN brewers on a recipe that the NHC winners have collaborated on. This beer will then be made available to a local pub of our choosing, if possible.

It looks like I will be back in CA in Sept.

FYI - was in Yosemite NP today. Went to the top of Yosemite Falls. My knees and feet are shot as I type this! Hope I can walk tomorrow.
 

Little Dipper
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 05:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was fortunate enough to be sitting with Jeff when the results rolled in. The look of shock on his face was worth the price of dinner, for sure. He and Susan were on cloud nine for the rest of the night.

I had a great time and am definitely planning to make this a yearly event for me.
 

Chumley
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I want Jeff's barleywine recipe!
 

Jeff Rankert
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 06-2008
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Getting ready to head to the airport.

I will post it tomorrow. Of course you could wait for the winners recipies in Zymurgy.
 

Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 10486
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jeff, I really think you have to give up the recipe here. An gold medal-winning American barley wine sounds like a treat.
 

Graham Cox
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Congratulations, Jeff and Jeff! Nice work.
 

Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 10489
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jeff S., I wasn't surprised about my Australian Sparkling Ale. It only earned a score of 30 in a weak category (Specialty Beer) in a weak region (Canada). Being as objective as I can about my own beer, I would give it a score in the high 30s. It's a fine beer, and nearly a dead ringer for Coopers, but to win a medal in the second round a beer should be spectacular. I'm merely a little disappointed that the judges have so little experience with the style and seem uncertain as to what to say about it. I'll wait for my scoresheets to see if the second round judges did a better job.

This is all the more reason that you and Jeff R. should be very proud of your gold medals.
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5850
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cheer up, Graham......I am sure that next year, you will be up there in the Winner's Circle!*



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*It would help if you overcame your inordinate fear of re-using yeast cakes.
 

Bob Wall
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Post Number: 2676
Registered: 11-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Give Graham a break...he just moved his brewery.
 

Jeff Rankert
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Username: Hopfenundmalz

Post Number: 76
Registered: 06-2008
Posted From: 76.122.184.255
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As promised, here is the recipe. Brewed on Jan. 2, 09. Yeast from a 10 gallons starter of pale ale, and O2 are key for a quick finishing barleywine.

The actual Promash recipe was lost in a HD crash. The only changes I made to last years was to up the lovibond of the crystal malts, and simplified the grain bill a little.

Sugar is there just because.

2009 Creative Destruction Barley Wine

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics
----------------

Batch Size (Gal): 10.50 Wort Size (Gal): 10.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 36.00
Anticipated OG: 1.102 Plato: 24.26
Anticipated SRM: 14.0
Anticipated IBU: 100.1
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.

Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2.8 1.00 lbs. Crystal 60L America 1.034 40
2.7 1.00 lbs. Crystal 120L Great Britain 1.033 105
2.7 1.00 lbs. Rapadura Sugar Generic 1.046 0
27.0 10.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
64.9 24.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.038 3

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.25 oz. Chinook Whole 13.00 27.5 60 min.
1.25 oz. Columbus Whole 15.00 31.7 60 min.
1.00 oz. Chinook Whole 13.00 19.7 45 min.
0.50 oz. Simcoe Whole 13.00 5.6 30 min.
0.50 oz. Amarillo Gold Whole 9.75 4.2 30 min.
0.50 oz. Centennial Whole 10.50 4.5 30 min.
0.75 oz. Centennial Whole 10.50 3.5 15 min.
0.75 oz. Amarillo Gold Whole 10.00 3.4 15 min.
0.50 oz. Amarillo Gold Whole 10.00 0.0 0 min.
0.50 oz. Simcoe Whole 13.00 0.0 0 min.
0.50 oz. Centennial Whole 10.50 0.0 0 min.
1.00 oz. Simcoe Whole 13.00 0.0 Dry Hop
1.00 oz. Amarillo Gold Whole 10.00 0.0 Dry Hop
1.00 oz. Centennial Whole 10.50 0.0 Dry Hop


Yeast
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White Labs WLP001 California Ale
Used yeast cake from a 1.050 Pale ale.
O2 for 1 minute.

Mash
151 F for 60 min.
168 F for 15 min.
172 F Sparge for 45 min.


Fermentation 7 days in SS at 68 F, 14 days in secondary.

5/8 cup corn sugar to prime.
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 5851
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not only does that look delicious, I am fairly certain I have all the ingredients on hand. Sounds like that will go into the brewing queue.

Thanks, Jeff.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 10490
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Jeff.

A couple of questions: Mashing that much malt (36 lbs.) must have maxed out your system. Did you really get 75 percent mash efficiency? And secondly, that's a hop monster to be sure. How much wort did all those whole hops soak up?
 

Jeff Rankert
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Username: Hopfenundmalz

Post Number: 77
Registered: 06-2008
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill, that is a good question. Usually, I am in the 79-80% range for a <1.060 beer. 75% works for this. In the past I have done some beers with 40+Lbs grain, and then we are down around 68-70%.

This one was all bottled. Still got around 98 12 oz. bottles out of the batch, unlike tying to do a Pliny the Elder clone and getting 80 bottles. I have learned to throttle back the transfer at the end to let gravity help get the wort/beer out of the hops, which helps a little.