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Cliff Kuykendall (130.76.32.145)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I completed my all grain system this past weekend and decided to give it a test run with boiling water. One of my burners was from a Brinkman turkey fryer I had purchased a year or so ago and was using for my extract brews. I purchased a second King Kooker high BTU burner and during the test run I could not reach a boil in over an hour. The brinkman reached a boil in 35 minutes. After doing some research I discovered my Brinkman was 170K BTU and the the King was 54K BTU. I called Metal Fusion (maker of King Kooker) this morning and they said there was a national regulation and they could no longer sell anything over 54K BTU's. Is this really true? I am thinking that maybe I could drill the orifice out with a size 29 bit. What are the ramifications of doing this? Are there any other options? Thanks for your help.
 

Keith O. (216.39.170.42)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cliff,
I had the same problem when I needed high btus for a steam generator. I went to McLendons in sumner and bought a Mr heater regulator 0 - 60 psi and a gas ball valve. Then you'l get some high btus.
Keith O.
 

David S. (66.167.196.210)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's not that simple. The orfice (gas jet), burner holes and air intake are all balanced for proper combustion. You'd probably end up with a big yellow flame that would deliver less BTU's and put smoot all over the bottom of your kettle.
 

Cliff Kuykendall (130.76.32.144)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Keith,

Small world. I live about 4 miles from McLendons in Sumner.

Are you sure the regulator would make the differnce? or does the regulator you mention also come with a bigger orifice?
 

Keith O. (216.39.170.42)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I ordered a high output burner form king kooker and put 0 -60 psi regulator on it. Nothing but blue flame and it roars. Sounds like the same burner cliff has. I hate being the exception to the rule.
 

David S. (66.167.196.210)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm using a cooker with a cast iron burner about 8" in diameter. It is of an unknown BTU rating. When I heat a 13" (30 qt) kettle with 6 gallons of water, starting at 145F, it takes about 20-30 minutes to achieve a boil.

How does this compare to everyone else's burners?
 

JOHN K. LEE (206.66.239.111)
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm kinda in the same boat. I have a Brinkmann that I use for my HLT and it kicks a$$. I can boil 5 gal of room temp water in 20-min. My boil burner is an I don't know at the moment and it just plain sucks. I picked it up at The Depot for pretty cheap. I bought it just because it had a 7.5gal pot. Unfortunately the pot is still really too small for a 5 gal batch without having to watch it constantly throughout the first half of the boil. Someday I'll finally buy another "good" burner and go with 60qt S/S kettles.....someday?
-J.K.L.
 

David Woods (67.242.92.18)
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David S.

I brew on the stove (with two burners under a 40qt pot) and get 145F water to boil in 20-30 minutes. I believe my burners are only 10,000 BTU's a piece.

I do leave the lid on until the boil starts to get the temp up quick though.

David
 

Lennart Persson (216.165.249.175)
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

National Regulation does not sound right. There are plenty of burners available with higher BTU's. Windshields helps a lot and an aluminum pot is faster than stainless ;-)

http://www.solarflo.com/gasjet.htm

http://www.thegrillstoreandmore.com/burners.asp
 

Chris Melchior (64.3.27.66)
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

all you sumner people, I live in Gig Harbor. Why is it I feel like I am the only one in Western WA. that brews. Never seem to run into anyone else that does, except at the HBS in Lakewood of course.

Chris.
 

Cliff Kuykendall (130.76.32.144)
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had a visit with my local propane company. They bored out the orifice 3 sizes larger to a 55(I think) and replaced the tank connection with the "older" style. It now puts out plenty of blue flame.

Chris,
Not only do I live in Sumner, I was doing aircraft line service when I was 22. Email me if you want to get together. I am doing my first all grain batch in the am.
 

Keith O. (216.39.170.42)
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cliff,
What time are you starting. email me with your address if I decide not to brew I might stop by.
Keith
 

Cliff Kuykendall (130.76.32.145)
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2004 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Keith,
Check your email.
 

Bill R (198.81.26.14)
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I completed my all grain system this past weekend and decided to give it a test run with boiling water. One of my burners was from a Brinkman turkey fryer I had purchased a year or so ago and was using for my extract brews. I purchased a second King Kooker high BTU burner and during the test run I could not reach a boil in over an hour. The brinkman reached a boil in 35 minutes. After doing some research I discovered my Brinkman was 170K BTU and the the King was 54K BTU. I called Metal Fusion (maker of King Kooker) this morning and they said there was a national regulation and they could no longer sell anything over 54K BTU's. Is this really true? I am thinking that maybe I could drill the orifice out with a size 29 bit. What are the ramifications of doing this? Are there any other options? Thanks for your help.

Cliff, I am not a propane expert but I have one. As he explains there are high & low pressure systems, Your different burners may be High & low systems, I would strongly adivise you before you go drilling orifices to leave it to someone who has some real experience with this. The burners, orfices, and regulators are all matched to provide the optimum flame. I suspect your trying to run a high BTU burner from a lower system regulator. Be carefull & get help with this.