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Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 778
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Who has made the perfect uncloggable drain for your boil kettle?

My current setup is simply a piece of copper with a 90 so it draws from the very center of the BK (converted keg). I used to have a problem with whole hops and bitter orange peel clogging the drain so I added a SS scrubby to act as a filter. Now pellet hops and break material clog it up. When it doesn't clog I get every last drop of sweet wort out of my kettle, but lately I have been dealing with a clog every batch.

So what is the best uncloggable drain? I am considering going to a SS braid around the diameter of the kettle and using a whirlpool.

Who has never clogged?
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 720
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Geoff,

My kettle set-up is very similar to yours.

I make sure I always include some whole hops in my recipe, maybe 1-2 ounces. These are heavier than the pieces of pelletized hops and bits of break material. The leaves coat the SS scrubbie first, and I've not had a clog with this set-up ever.

If I'm reading you right, you're only having problems when you only use pelletized hops.
 

Ron Siddall
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Username: Listerdister

Post Number: 236
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use a whirpool and a ss braid around a piece of copper that circles the bottom about 1/3 of the way around the lower side. That way it is not in the middle of the muck in the center left by the whirlpool. I loose only a few cups of wort. Have not had a clog, ever.
 

Patrick C.
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Username: Patrickc

Post Number: 350
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Even with 8+ ounces of pellets?
 

Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 779
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, Paul, pellets are the main problem with the scrubby, but I think I recently had a clog using whole hops. I usually make my hop pellets wear panty hose if I have a mix of whole and pelletized.

I guess what I am getting at is that there are too many rules and circumstances for each scenario. I want to redesign my kettle to handle all situations. One setup and one SOP for all recipes. It starts to get to be a pain in the arse trying to adjust and accommodate when I should just have been a better engineer.
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 571
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Similar set up here, 1/2" tube down to center of BK. I use pellets hops only, in nylon bags. Large bags are sold as paint strainers in the hardware stores, they hold several ounces of hops.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 1143
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use an 8" diameter stainless steel false bottom to drain. The dip tube goes down the middle of it and holds it down. I need about at least half leaf hops for it to work well.

Dan Listermann
Listermann Mfg.,Co. www.listermann.com

 

Ron Siddall
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Username: Listerdister

Post Number: 237
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

8 oz of pellets??????

No, I have never tried that much.
 

Vince Turley
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Username: Vince

Post Number: 181
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I use a BazookaTM screen. As long as I have at least an ounce or two of whole/leaf hops in the BK I have not had problem. If I brew exclusively with pellets, I put them in bags so as not to clog the filter.

Before I got the BazookaTM, I simply had a 1/2" drain pipe - this was off-center by about 4", so that it sat outside the "cone" that formed when whirlpooling (half way between the center and side wall). That was back when I used an IC; now that I have a CCFC, I simply start the drain at the end of my boil (which is why I went with the BazookaTM).

Whatever you use, I continue to hear that it really does not matter if the hops/trub make it into the fermenters (other than space they take up).
 

Astro
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Username: Astro

Post Number: 81
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another fan of the SS false bottom here. I make sure to use an ounce or so of whole hops in the boil, the rest can be pellets. Never clogged, and I pump the wort out at a pretty good rate.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2347
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My pickup is almost right at outside edge of kettle. Afetr wirlpooling all the hops and crap are in the middle...no reason to ever get clogged
Bellybuster Bob
www.bellybuster.netfirms.com
 

Dave Bossie
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Username: Boss_brew

Post Number: 7
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mine is merely a circular copper tube with slots cut into the bottom side. I use only whole hops, and haven't had any clogs, even though I only use gravity/siphon into the counterflow chiller.
 

robert rulmyr
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Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 572
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot to say, NEVER CLOGGED.
 

Mike Huss
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Username: Mikhu

Post Number: 683
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bazooka T in the center and I try to use all whole hops. If I have to use pellets I use a hop bag. Never had a clog, and I've been gravity draining through a CFC for a few batches now.
 

Pete Mazurowski
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Username: Pete_maz

Post Number: 159
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My pickup tube is very similar to BBB's in my keggle, but I also have braided SS sleeve over a copper inner tube so it won't collapse. I gravity drain thru a CFC, and when the wort level gets low I use a high-tech 2x4 block to tilt the kettle so I get all but about 1-2 pints out.

I wind up using mostly pellets due to lack of whole hop selection at my LHBS, and don't clog.
 

Michael
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Username: Hoppop

Post Number: 646
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clog?

I have a 20 gallon SS kettle. For a drain, I have a 1/2" ball valve on the outside and a 1/2" threaded copper fitting on the inside. SS washers and silicon o-rings keep the whole thing leak free.

I've probably used 8 0z + pellets straight in the kettle before for a large batch.

I do put leaf hops into hop bags, however.

There are pictures somewhere in the photo section under "Other side of the tracks brewery."
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 1679
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lets see, I've had 20 oz of pellet hops in the kettle for a 10 gal batch of Pliny. Those were wearing several pairs of hose.

I have a brass T with 1/2" MPT on the coupling welded into the keggle. That goes to 1/2" flare fittings on both sides of the T. I made flare fittings on 1/2 copper tubing to connect to that. I curved the 2 copper tubing pieces around the sides of the keg right where the rounded bottom meets the sides. Took a Bazooka T apart and put a screen on each tube. Did all that after several "problem" batches.