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Roger Herpst
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Username: Roger456

Post Number: 192
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Guys, I've got 2+ oz of Simcoe in the freezer and no recipe to use it on. I was thinking of a nice APA, mostly 2row, some crystal, you know the drill... but I was hoping you'd have some recipes, hopping suggestions (ie simcoe bitter vs aroma?), and ideas for accompanying hops.

I've searched the archives, and it seems that some of the cool kids are using Amarillo as the simcoe counterpart. I can't get Amarillo at the LHBS, but I do have plenty of magnum, perle, cascade, and columbus in the freezer right now. I'm saving the Mt. Hood for the Cream Ale I'll be brewing next weekend, and I'd like to make it a double brew weekend.

Thoughts?
 

Roger Herpst
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Username: Roger456

Post Number: 193
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm... Now I'm thinking I might want to do a 12 gal. batch and split between the simcoe/??? hopped brwe and a cascade batch for comparison's sake.
 

Rob Beck
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've used Simcoe for bittering, flavor, and aroma in APAs. They work well for bittering, but then, so do Magnum. They work really well for flavor, coupled with Cascade. They work well for dry hopping, coupled with Cascade and Centennial.
Just my experience with Simcoe and APA.
 

Roger Herpst
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Username: Roger456

Post Number: 195
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just the kind of info I'm looking for, thanks Rob
 

damon
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Username: Nomad

Post Number: 122
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Simcoe is like Chinook on downers - much less aggressive and pine-flavored but still citric and aromatic. I've used it a bunch of different ways and I prefer it at 20 min. or under. Truly great variety for dry-hopping.
 

Aaron MacDonald
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Username: Inveigler

Post Number: 94
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A local brewery, Kuhnhenn, makes a pretty darn good Belgian pale ale with Simcoe. It isn't the first hops that occurs to me when I think of a Belgian pale, but I can't argue with the results.

The spiciness compliments the estery yeast very well. If you would like to read some reviews for some recipe ideas:

http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/kuhnhenn-simcoe-silly-ale/32844/
 

Alan L. Folsom, Jr.
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I made an APA to explore Simcoe as a flavor hop. A little crystal, but a hopping schedule of 1/4 oz for 1 hour, 1/2 oz for 30 minutes, 3/4 oz for 15, and 1 oz at end of boil.

I really liked the flavor, but it is quite fruity, tasting of apricots both in that beer, and in other simcoe beers I've tasted.

I entered the beer in a number of contests, and all of the judges thought the flavor was off somehow. I then entered it in a fruit beer category as an apricot APA, and took a ribbon.

Go figure.

Al
 

Nathan Eddy
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Username: Nathan_eddy

Post Number: 47
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm . . . I'm tasting apricots in my latest APA, too! I used Northern Brewer for bittering and Liberty for flavor, but dry hopped with Cascade.

Do Liberty hops have a similar fruitiness? I used 1056 yeast, so I'm don't suppose that could be the source of any fruit flavor. The only thing different I did this time was a 1/2# of Belgian Aromatic--which gave me more malt presence that I was looking for, very happy with that.

Sorry to lead the thread off-topic. I'd love to try Simcoe but can't get it.
 

damon
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Username: Nomad

Post Number: 123
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Al, I wholeheartedly agree that Simcoe can taste and smell like apricots. Check out Hair of the Dog's "barlyewine", Doggie Claws with a year of aging - a bowl of apricot and peach!
 

Guy C
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Username: Ipaguy

Post Number: 271
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hear more brewers describe Amarillo as apricot/peach, especially as dryhops. Simcoe is resiny and piney to me. Big pine when dryhopping.
 

Guy C
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Post Number: 272
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

2003-2004 Doggie Claws commercial description (note the Amarillo):

"Doggie Claws has a light copper color and an intense herbal hop character. In this year's release we are using Simcoe and Amarillo hops harvested just weeks before brewing. The beer is ready to drink now but will improve with age. Recipe change from previous vintages (Alan Sprints, July 2004)"
 

damon
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Haven't had the new one yet! But I drank the 2002 and 2003 as much as I could when I lived in Philly.

To my taste Simcoe can be very piney AND quite citric and fruity. Regardless, great stuff.