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Steven Edward Haun
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Username: Stevehaun

Post Number: 185
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 4.159.122.73
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I brewed 15 gal of dunkel today. Nearly perfect brew day until I realized that I did not sanitize my counter flow chiller. I normally pump near boiling hot water thru it prior to pumping the wort from kettle to fermentor. Today I simply forgot to sanitize it. I did run boiling hot wort clear thru the chiller prior to turning on the chilling water. At the end of every brew day I clean my chiller with hot oxiclean solution followed by a near boiling hot water rinse. I then cover the ends with plastic bags. So I started the day with a clean chiller. I am thinking I may be ok. What are the odds my beer won't be infected?
 

Randy McCord
Intermediate Member
Username: Mccord

Post Number: 491
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 216.174.177.158
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your odds are pretty good I would say. I had trouble with my wort wizard and dumped water from my garden hose into my carboy with no ill effects. One other time before using a wort wizard my cfc got clogged and the wort sat inside long enough to turn green before I could get it unclogged. The beer was fine that time also. Maybe I'm just lucky though. I hope it turns out okay for you, losing 15 gal of good brew would be very depressing.
 

Mike McNeil
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Username: Macster

Post Number: 163
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 69.180.84.186
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It took me 40 min with my 50' IC to cool 10.5 gals. down to 75* here in FL the other day; and that was with a pre-chiller in ice. As my arm ached from the constant stirring, I swore my next purchase would be a CFC. However, everytime I read a post like this I can't help but think of the ol' KISS method and hang onto my labor-intensive, but simple-to-use IC.
 

robert rulmyr
Advanced Member
Username: Wacobob

Post Number: 689
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.150.11.7
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's why 'check lists' are important. My check list has things like...Yeast out of 'fridge, sanitize CFC, and measure hops.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 3895
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the chiller was clean to begin with, you are probably all right. Sanitizer is recommended as insurance.

(Message edited by BillPierce on November 13, 2005)
 

Mike Mayer
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Username: Mmayer

Post Number: 519
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 65.43.186.11
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I never run sanitizer through my CFC. All I do is run about 2 gallons of boiling water through it, and I have never had any issues. However, now you have me nervous, so I think I'll run a hot oxy-clean solution through it followed by a couple of gallons of Star San for my next brew session.
 

Dan Listermann
Senior Member
Username: Listermann

Post Number: 1974
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 65.29.220.144
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Running boiling hot wort through a CFC without the cooling water on for a short bit should be enough. I don't see a need to bother with boiling water.

Dan

(Message edited by listermann on November 14, 2005)

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Joseph Listan
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Username: Poonstab

Post Number: 863
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 66.192.83.65
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dan, I wanted to give you five stars for pointing out the very simplest effective method, but now I can't.
 

Dan Listermann
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Username: Listermann

Post Number: 1982
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 216.215.203.37
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joseph, any jerk can screw up a good thing.

Dan

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J. Steinhauer
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Username: Jstein6870

Post Number: 759
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 66.82.9.74
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup, like Dan said.

I've always sanitized pump and CFC chillers this way with no problems. It's better than liquid sanitizer, since air bubbles, corners and unaccounted for debris will not reduce the effectiveness of heat.
 

Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie

Post Number: 560
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I drop mine into the HLT when I fire up, take it out when the sparge is finished...
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 3910
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It takes about 5 minutes for 200 F water to be effective as a sanitizer, a little more time than Star San but about the same as Iodophor and less time than bleach.