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Wykowski
Senior Member
Username: Bigearl
Post Number: 1323
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 209.222.26.27
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 03:23 pm: | 
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newport hops , (i know they don't taste like menthol)
they were brought up here before, who has tried them ???
what are they like ???
the lhbs has a bunch of them, i'm thinking of a simple pale ale to try them
"...he brewed white lightnin' till the sun went down, then he filled him a jug and he passed it around..."
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Beertracker
Advanced Member
Username: Beertracker
Post Number: 923
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 216.97.182.108
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 03:35 pm: |
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I've never used them, but I know that John Maier uses a lot of them in Rogue brews which is good enough for me! 
CHEERS! Beertracker
"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers
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Wykowski
Senior Member
Username: Bigearl
Post Number: 1325
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 209.222.26.27
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 02:08 pm: |
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I found this on Rogue's site
JLS Release #8: Hop Heaven ~ This release is the 3rd vintage of Rogue Ales' Harvest Ale using wet hops. On August 25, 2005 John & Stacey Maier took Brewer to John Annen's Hop Farm in Mt. Angel, Oregon--a 2 hour drive from the brewery in Newport. Annen Brothers are the only growers of the Newport Hop and only 1.5 acres exists. John arranged with John to pick up 1000 pounds of hops (last year's batch of Hop Heaven used a mere 300 pds!) which were being picked as the Maiers arrived... 11 Burlap Sacks were transported to the brewery where Chris Spollen (#2 brewer at Rogue) and John "more hops" Maier pitched 150 pounds of wet, freshly picked Newport Hops into the kettle... the rest is hostory...four batches were brewed in total.
The specifications, according to John Maier are: Malts: 2 row pale, Munich and CaraWheat. Freshly picked, wet Newport Hops, OG = 15 degrees Plato, TG = 3.5 degrees Plato. IBU's = HIGH (gotta love Mr "more hops" Maier). Color = deep orange. Fined and Unfiltered
"...he brewed white lightnin' till the sun went down, then he filled him a jug and he passed it around..."
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Chumley
Senior Member
Username: Chumley
Post Number: 3764
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.37.187.137
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 03:52 pm: |
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Only 1.5 acres exist and a LHBS in Pennsylvania has a bunch of them? I'd be all over that. I like to try new hop varieties in pale ales. Last month I bought some Vanguard hops, which I have never heard of. Gonna have to try them soon, once a primary breaks free (happiness is having all 5 primaries filled with beer/mead). |
Wykowski
Senior Member
Username: Bigearl
Post Number: 1326
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 209.222.26.27
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 06:32 pm: |
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they are from 'fresh hops', they must be growing them on a larger farm now
I will get 6-8oz and make 10gals of 'newport' pale ale , and find out
"...he brewed white lightnin' till the sun went down, then he filled him a jug and he passed it around..."
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Beertracker
Advanced Member
Username: Beertracker
Post Number: 926
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 216.97.182.108
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 06:54 pm: |
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I know for certain that John Maier uses them in the Rogue I2PA and I believe he uses them in the Brutal Bitter as well? I may have to give them a try after reading this article:
USDA Mildew-Resistant Hops Tested by Brewing Industry
CHEERS! Beertracker
"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers
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Wykowski
Senior Member
Username: Bigearl
Post Number: 1327
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 209.222.26.27
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:36 pm: |
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Brutal Bitter is made with all Crystal hops (unless it was recently changed)
"...he brewed white lightnin' till the sun went down, then he filled him a jug and he passed it around..."
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Beertracker
Advanced Member
Username: Beertracker
Post Number: 927
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 216.97.182.108
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:59 pm: |
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It was the retired Rogue Skull Splitter a.k.a. Black Brutal Bitter (B3) that used the Newport hops. My bad! 
CHEERS! Beertracker
"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers
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Beertracker
Advanced Member
Username: Beertracker
Post Number: 928
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 216.97.182.108
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 09:03 pm: |
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quote:Black Brutal Bitter (B3) also known as Rogue Skull Splitter is an Imperial Schwarzbier (Black Beer) according to John Maier. Brewed with Rogue's proprietary PacMan yeast, Domestic & German specialty malts, Newport & Amarillo hops and dry-hopped with Amarillo. The result is a lusty brew that glides over the palate, attacking with intense bitterness and rich caramel roast flavors imparting a long finish on all the senses. ABV is imperial strength (9%-ish), availability is limited to OBF and the Rogue Pubs on tap and bottles, while it lasts!
CHEERS! Beertracker
"From man's sweat and God's love, beer came into the world." ~ Saint Arnold of Metz (580-640) - Patron Saint of Brewers
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Guy C
Intermediate Member
Username: Ipaguy
Post Number: 356
Registered: 09-2003
Posted From: 24.6.136.251
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:17 pm: |
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I seem to recall John M. mentioning at NCHF this year that he liked Newport more for bittering purposes, but don't quote me on that as I'd drank quite a few homebrews before he started speaking that day. |
Vance Barnes
Senior Member
Username: Vancebarnes
Post Number: 1980
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 208.49.148.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:52 pm: |
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Catch the Rouge 15 next week to find out what they taste like. |
Wykowski
Senior Member
Username: Bigearl
Post Number: 1333
Registered: 12-2002
Posted From: 209.222.26.27
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:24 pm: |
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Rouge 15
I thought that was last year
"...he brewed white lightnin' till the sun went down, then he filled him a jug and he passed it around..."
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David Woods
Advanced Member
Username: Beericon
Post Number: 686
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 4.186.75.213
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 05:12 pm: |
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"Maier pitched 150 pounds of wet, freshly picked Newport Hops into the kettle"
I thought you would get grassy flavors if you used wet hops? |
Vance Barnes
Senior Member
Username: Vancebarnes
Post Number: 1985
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 208.49.148.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 07:52 pm: |
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I thought you would get grassy flavors if you used wet hops?
Think you need to check out Hop Maddness next year. Denny should be able to fill you in on using fresh hops like they do there. Sierra Nevada just came out with a Harvest Hop beer as well. Haven't had one yet. Supposed to be a lot like the Celebration but with about 6 times more hops by weight due to the moisture in the hops.
Thought the Rouge 15 was only going to be for last year but it's still happening every month. I plan to check it out tonight. |
Denny Conn
Senior Member
Username: Denny
Post Number: 5223
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 140.211.82.4
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 08:22 pm: |
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Yeah, there are some fantastic beers made at Hop Madness with hops picked just a couple hours earlier.
Is the Rogue 15 what they're calling "John's Locker Stock"?
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Jim Keaveney
Advanced Member
Username: Jimkeaveney
Post Number: 789
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 64.12.116.14
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:03 pm: |
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that hop heaven was some good stuff. it debuted at my lwh on the same night as victory's hop wallop - a very good beer that attracted a big crowd - but i have to give the edge to rogue even tho i am an east coaster. |
Steve Funk
Member
Username: Tundra45
Post Number: 102
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 209.216.179.15
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:17 pm: |
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I tried Rogue's 2004 hop heaven made with fresh picked Newport hops. This was so outstanding that I took home a keg of it, which reminds me I need to return that shell for my prepaid $50 deposit. See http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/sep02/hops0902.htm for information about Newport hops.
I was also at Hop Madness '05 and brewed a 12 gal batch of IPA using 5-1/2 pounds of freshly picked hops. No grassy notes here. In fact, the last keg of it just blew the other night. I really loved that beer, sniff, sniff...
Steve
Stevenson, WA
(Message edited by tundra45 on November 15, 2005)
All and all, it's only about the beer.
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