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George
New Member
Username: Ggenovez
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 24.0.68.122
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 06:29 pm: | 
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Hi all,
I noticed that the RIMS builders use mostly sanke kegs.
Where do they get them from. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 4186
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 06:56 pm: |
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Check your local scrapyards, which often get kegs that no longer hold pressure but are perfectly good for use as brewing vessels. The price of stainless has gone up in the past few years, but it's still a reasonable value. |
George
New Member
Username: Ggenovez
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 24.0.68.122
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 07:20 pm: |
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Hey Bill,
By scrap yard, do you mean like automobile scrap yard?
Thank
george |
Paul Edwards
Advanced Member
Username: Pedwards
Post Number: 863
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 70.236.69.246
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 07:40 pm: |
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I don't think that's what he meant. Look in your yellow pages under "scrap metals" |
Hophead
Senior Member
Username: Hophead
Post Number: 1926
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 167.4.1.38
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 07:42 pm: |
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Scrap yards sell steel by the pound, and often have sanke kegs; not sure if there's a distinction between auto specific and 'just' scrap metal here or not...
I hope this turns into a thread on the moral issues of keeping kegs for the deposit. It's one of my favorites... 
ps I'm not BP, nor do I play him on tv...
(Message edited by hophead on December 19, 2005) |
Roger
Intermediate Member
Username: Roger456
Post Number: 327
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 64.142.50.192
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 09:50 pm: |
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I bought mine at a local brewery. I asked the production manager if they had any kegs that weren't holding pressure, or were otherwise undesirable for kegging. Very helpful people at the Bear Republic. |
dhacker
Junior Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 72
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 207.230.140.240
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:11 pm: |
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I hope this turns into a thread on the moral issues of keeping kegs for the deposit. It's one of my favorites...
HH . . You're sick! |
Jeff Preston
Member
Username: Jeffpreston
Post Number: 129
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 142.161.181.149
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:12 pm: |
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I have 6 kegs that I found at a local scrap metal yard. Cost me 20 bucks each. |
ELK
Senior Member
Username: Elkski
Post Number: 1279
Registered: 01-2003
Posted From: 67.177.25.240
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 10:28 pm: |
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Even if you find these at a scrap yard if Ab or coors hasn't scraped them they might not be any more legal than me paying the local kid 20$ (to match his deposit) after he has a party and saving him the gas money to return them. |
Brandon Dachel
Senior Member
Username: Brandon
Post Number: 1741
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 12.161.154.108
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 02:54 am: |
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I ordered mine from Sabco |
Scott Folsom
Member
Username: Sfolsom
Post Number: 130
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 68.100.177.136
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 07:32 am: |
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I got mine from the local micro. Very nice and helpful once I explained what I wanted them for.
$10 a pop, he appreciated the sixer of ESB, and I got a reciept too.... |
Greg Nolan
Member
Username: Greg
Post Number: 149
Registered: 06-2001
Posted From: 207.69.139.150
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 01:57 pm: |
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I called Coors and the guy said they punch all of theirs then crush them due to liability issues. I suspect all the large breweries do the same. If you want a legal coors or bud; good luck.
I am drunk therfore I am.
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Steve Jones
Member
Username: Stevej
Post Number: 149
Registered: 08-2001
Posted From: 24.159.47.161
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 02:40 pm: |
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Hophead said:
I hope this turns into a thread on the moral issues of keeping kegs for the deposit. It's one of my favorites...
Back in '96 (damn, has it really been 9 years?) when I was looking for sanke kegs, I went to the local AB distributor and asked at the warehouse about acquiring 3 old kegs. They sent me to the office, where I told the receptionist the same thing. She got on the phone, and a few minutes later a suit came out to talk to me.
I told him what I wanted them for, and he told me to go up to the one-stop (closest beer store) and just pay the deposit on 3 kegs and keep them. I told him that I didn't think that was the proper way to do it, but he said he'd call the store and tell them it was OK, so that's what I did.
Are they legal? Doubtful, but I don't have any problem with keeping them. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 4226
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.229.8
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 06:01 pm: |
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The reaction from Coors is typical of corporate thinking and perhaps belongs in the current thread about the difference between small and large breweries. Steve has a good idea; if your local scrapyards or microbreweries don't have any surplus kegs, give the beer distributors a call. They are agents of the megabrewers but are much smaller and have a greater degree of independence. They often have defective kegs that are awaiting scrap or return to the breweries that can be diverted to homebrewers. Leave the strict legalities to the corporate lawyers and deal with real people. |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 609
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 07:39 pm: |
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I got mine from a door to door salesman  |
Hophead
Senior Member
Username: Hophead
Post Number: 1936
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 63.230.206.51
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 08:50 pm: |
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You probably got yours at a garage sale for $0.50 apiece... |
Rob Beck
Member
Username: Robbeck
Post Number: 222
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 208.190.203.3
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 10:25 pm: |
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I'm with Connie and H2. |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 610
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
| | Posted on Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 03:28 am: |
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yeah, I have picked up a "few" at garage sales, more than one was free  |
Why1504
Intermediate Member
Username: Why1504
Post Number: 302
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 216.107.66.146
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 05:24 pm: |
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On all of these boards an not a week passes and we arn't warned about the legality of not returning a keg from a beer store. Not that I would ever take an illegal keg, but I was wondering, has anyone ever been prosecuted for cutting the top off a keg acquired under less than the most upstanding methods? |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 613
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 07:59 pm: |
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I'd be really surprised if anyone even knew someone who had been prosecuted. |
Ken Anderson
Senior Member
Username: Ken75
Post Number: 1278
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 69.168.141.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 09:26 pm: |
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The loss is simply recouped through the continued sale of megaswill. So our fellow Bud Light drinkers do play a role in, and support, our hobby. And I thank them. |
Catt22
Member
Username: Catt22
Post Number: 203
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 8.8.198.170
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 01:15 am: |
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I suppose if it were a "third strike" you could get life in prison in some states. It's just not worth the risk! |
Brad Petit
Junior Member
Username: Voodoobrew
Post Number: 53
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 70.247.199.28
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 02:02 am: |
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For several years my friends and I were the beer custodians for our college fraternity, and invariably when we would get kegs for parties we would loose the deposit receipts. Of course we ended up amassing a lot of keg shells, which no one would give us deposit money for. Finally we talked to the local AB distributor, who offered $15 per keg, or about half our deposit. Moral quandry? Nah. |
Mark McAvoy
Junior Member
Username: Mcavoy
Post Number: 69
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 128.252.241.177
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 08:26 pm: |
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I pulled one out of a dumpster along with its red garbage can that held the ice. I guess I should of had a moral dilemma and just left it there. I also shop at WalMart. |
Denny Conn
Senior Member
Username: Denny
Post Number: 5305
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 63.114.138.2
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 08:45 pm: |
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Ethics and morals are your own business...some people have them, some don't.....
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
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Chumley
Senior Member
Username: Chumley
Post Number: 3851
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.102.123.53
| | Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:54 pm: |
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yada yada yada |
Richard Nye
Senior Member
Username: Yeasty_boy
Post Number: 1148
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 68.225.248.227
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 01:55 am: |
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The biggest problem I see with keeping the keg for the price of the deposit is you have to drink 15.5 gallons of megaswill! |
Nate Kendrick
New Member
Username: N8sbrewing
Post Number: 14
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 66.229.61.188
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 04:34 pm: |
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Denny,
I'm an official member of the Immoral Minority! |
dhacker
Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 105
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 208.63.189.19
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:10 pm: |
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The biggest problem I see with keeping the keg for the price of the deposit is you have to drink 15.5 gallons of megaswill!
Not necessarily.
You could use it to kill weeds in the yard. |
Hophead
Senior Member
Username: Hophead
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 167.4.1.38
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:16 pm: |
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Uh, you do realise you can buy kegs of good beer too, yes? Watch out for some of those silly european kegs though, they're ~2gal short of a US keg (guess that makes up for our smaller 'pint' glasses)... |
Why1504
Intermediate Member
Username: Why1504
Post Number: 303
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 68.62.162.49
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 02:15 am: |
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I am not questioning ethics or morality. I have not purchased a keg of beer from the local beer store. Have not seen the receipt requiring the return of said property. I have noticed on the empties I have seen there is no statement concerning the return of said keg. Not to be a smart a$$ but I also never saw a return statement on coke bottles growing up. I suspect they were worth more than the nickel you would get back on each bottle as well. |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 617
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 03:43 am: |
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I have one of those european kegs that isn't really a half barrel...it does say that the keg is the property of said company and is never sold to the public (or something to that effect) Damn, I feel so bad about having it...and cutting the top off....and having a coupling welded in, geez. |
dhacker
Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 106
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 208.63.189.19
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 05:08 am: |
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The most esoteric keg beer available within 100 miles of where I live is Red Hook ESB. But if ya want something with the word "Lite" attached, (i.e. weed killer) distributor's gotcha covered! With that selection, (or lack thereof) one could easily reason they are morally justified in not returning it for deposit since they are, in effect, providing keg salvation. |
Connie
Advanced Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 618
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.30.0.91
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 08:27 pm: |
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