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mark taylor
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 06-2003
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone have a clone recipe for the Bear Republic I.P.A. called 'Hop Rod'? I tried this beer at the Boonville beer fest. last year and loved it. Their web site claims 20% rye and an O.G. of 1.074 but that's it.
thanks in advance
mark
 

Geoff Buschur
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Post Number: 1121
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would start out by making the famous Denny Conn Rye PA
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My sentiments exactly. You will find a strong prejudice on this board for Denny's celebrated Rye IPA, which has been brewed by Rogue and many, many homebrewers with great success.

http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html
 

Paul Hayslett
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I never mentioned that my batch of Denny's Rye IPA won Best of Show in my club's last in-house competition. It is truly a recipe of the gods. I agree that it should be Mark's first stop.
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Dave Witt
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But Denny's is even better, IMHO.

(than Hop Rod)

(Message edited by DaveW on April 02, 2006)
 

mark taylor
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O.K. I give. I just milled the grain for the DC RyePA.
But I have a question regarding the FWH. Do I drop a hop bag of hops into the wort for ten minutes prior to boil or during the last 10 min. of my sparge or what?
thanks
 

jeff wright
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Mark,
I could be mistaken, but when I FWH I drop the hop bag in the boil kettle when I start to run the wort to the kettle. I believe those hops stay in for the entire time.
Being that it's Denny's recipe, I will definitly defer to him.

Brew on,
Jeff
 

John Thompson
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That's what I do as well. Throw them in the BK before you start your run off and leave them in for the duration of the boil.
 

mark taylor
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That sounds like a plan. Thanks for the help.
 

J Auldridge
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mark, Don't be a sheep. don't give in so easily! Make what YOU want.
 

mark taylor
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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bhaaaaa.
Thanks Jeff. I did modify the grain bill to reflect my mash efficiency and I will be using Hallertau and Horizon instead. What do you think?
 

J Auldridge
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I think that you are about to catch the wrath of the B&V for changing a sacred cow!! How about the yeast, did you change that?
 

mark taylor
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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aaaa...yeah, o.k. I did. I'm going to rack in onto a 1056 yeast cake that just finished with my pale ale.
 

Denny Conn
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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hallertau and Horizon for that beer is a BIG mistake, IMO. You'll be making a very differnet beer.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Mike Huss
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Hallertau and Horizon instead of Mt. Hood and Columbus?????? That will be a totally different beer. I haven't made it with CL-50 myself but I have used 1272 every time. I think 1056 might leave you wanting more as well, but that's just IMHO.
 

mark taylor
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BB&B claim that MT. Hood are 'derivative' of Hallertauer. Seems they must be relatively similar?
mark
 

Denny Conn
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Yeah, it is, but there's a definite difference. And Horizon isn't even in the same universe as Columbus....
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Geoff Buschur
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The Mt. Hood/Columbus combo is the genius in the recipe. I have made it four times with four different yeast strains including CL-50. All four were great, but I couldn't imaging changing the hops.
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

mark taylor
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Denny,
sounds like the Columbus is the important hop? I was going to use the Horizon because of the low Cohumulones and supposedly it blends well with the Hallertau.
 

Denny Conn
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Yeah, but you don't want a low cohumulone hop...Columbus definitely aren't! And the aroma of Columbus dry hops is essential. FWIW, John Maier said that one of the most unique aspects of the beer was the blend of Mt. Hood and Columbus. Use what you like, but keep in mind that it will be a different beer..I can't guarantee the results!
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Chris Colby
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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The September 2004 issue of BYO has a Hop Rod Rye clone. The information used to construct the clone came from Richard Norgrove of Bear Republic.


Chris Colby (editor BYO)
Bastrop, TX
 

mark taylor
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Thanks Chris,
I got the recipe from Guy C. on another thread and will give it a shot. In the mean time I just finished with DC Ryp p.a. with my own hop schedule which I am anxious to taste the results. I see that 'Hop Rod' uses Columbus and centenial. Maybe I'll dry hop my current version of DC RyePA with Centenial;)
mark
 

Roger
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If you search the archives, you'll find one of my early posts where I made some hop substitutions in this recipe and was razzed about it. Next time you brew, do it to a T, including CL50 or 1272, not because of the razz factor, but because it is a damn good beer.

Somebody on this board once described Denny's Rye IPA as a Columbus delivery vehicle. I rather liked that description.

FWIW, I also drink Hop Rod Rye by the liter at the Bear at least once a week. It's pretty different from DC's Rye IPA.

(Message edited by roger456 on April 05, 2006)
 

Guy C
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Roger: I drink BR Hop Rod Rye quite a bit, mainly from the bottle though. If you don't mind me asking, which have you preferred, your homebrewed DC Rye IPA or Bear Republic's Hop Rod Rye?

I noticed a stronger rye/spicy flavor in the DC Rye IPA I brewed v. Hop Rod. Hop Rod also seems darker, maltier, and has a different hop character.