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Andy Hancock
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Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 158
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 143.183.121.4
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have been unable to connect my water filter to the faucet at my apartment. I havenít yet found the proper adapters. Since I wonít be filtering my water this weekend when I brew, I was wondering if I can start with hot tap water to save some time. My water taste fine with no hints of chlorine.
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Username: Liquidbreaddiet

Post Number: 492
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 148.168.40.4
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

the hot water and the cold water come from the same source - the only difference is one is presumably in a HWH - and kept at a constant temperature. There is no difference except temperature
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Paul Edwards
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Username: Pedwards

Post Number: 1090
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

HWH's have a thing called a sacrificial anode in them. The anode is designed to dissolve over time to protect the tank of the HWH from corrosion. The anodes are usually made from magnesium or aluminum.

The hot water will have a higher level of the anode metal.

Whether it's high enough to afffect the beer, I can't say, as I only use filtered cold tap water or RO water or a mix of the two, then heat it in my HLT.
 

Paul Erbe
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Username: Perbe

Post Number: 709
Registered: 05-2001
Posted From: 12.27.22.67
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since you will not be able to filter this is what I would do. I do this even after filtering because it saves some time on brewday.

the day before you plan to brew measure out your strike water. Bring it to a boil. Measure the remaining water needed into separate containers. Let these both sit over night. To make sure you have no chlorine problems you can treat the cool water with campden tablets.

When you get up in the morning you will find that the strike water will have retained some heat allowing you to heat it to the proper strike temp on time.
 

Belly Buster Bob
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Username: Canman

Post Number: 2626
Registered: 02-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Andy...one way ti find out isn't there? Have at 'er and try it. Why not? It'll still make beer
Bellybuster Bob
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Liquidbreaddiet
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Username: Liquidbreaddiet

Post Number: 493
Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

paul edwards - you are right about the anode. My take on it is that he is using this hwh daily to take a shower, do dishes etc. water is generally not going to be sitting in it for more than a day. I would argue that the minimum amounts of magnesium and aluminum leatched into a cycle of water going though the tank is minimal at best. given that a cycle doesn't take more than a day. I say you are fine and will not have any ill effects on your beer. just shower at least 24hrs before you brew and no worries
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A 24 hour shower seems a little excessive
 

Paul Erbe
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well maybe if Hiedi Klum was with you it would not be excessive at all.
 

Tex Brewer
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Post Number: 115
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since Heidi is more than a little preggers with her third, that could be somewhat kinky. You may have to settle for Cindy Crawford to get you clean for that brewing session.
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 5943
Registered: 01-2001
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd say taste the hot water and then decide if you want ot use it. I know I certainly wouldn't use mine.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Username: Liquidbreaddiet

Post Number: 495
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

since when is kinky a bad thing?
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Skotrat
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Username: Skotrat

Post Number: 2316
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd say taste the hot water and then decide if you want ot use it. I know I certainly wouldn't use mine.

Has Heidi been in your shower???

Plus... Do old hippies actually shower?

my hot water holding tank is a great addition to my Hot Water on demand
"Anger is a Gift"
 

kev reh
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Username: Kevreh

Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2003
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've always heard that hot/warm water leeches more undesirables from the pipes (ie. lead). I can definatly taste the difference between hot and cold water from my taps. I'd buy a couple 5 gallon jugs or fill your kettles with cold water and let them come to room temperature over night.

kevin
 

Skotrat
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Post Number: 2318
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yea..

If you have older pipes that may be a reasonable concern.

I have nice new copper pipes and whatnot.

-Scott
"Anger is a Gift"
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Post Number: 496
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

heat doesnt cause the leaching of lead into water- improper ph of the water does though. but since sometime in the 70's municipalities have been required to change the water ph to avoid this. if you are on a well that would be a different story but chances are that you would have outstanding water anyway.

side note - anyone scared of a lead pipe in their house should realize that even if they replace that pipe = there is a high chance of there being lead somewhere out in the system so get over it.

i think someone may have given me the gift skot talks about today
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 5946
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No Heidi and plenty o' showers....

My water heater is so old that 3 different plumbers have told me that they've never seen anything like it before. It's got to date from at least the 60s. I'd bet the plumbing in my house is at least 50 years old. Again, I say...it's great to theorize online about this, but why not just taste the hot water and see if that's what you want in your beer? Too easy????
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

JimTanguay
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Post Number: 617
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, you should replace your water heater if it really is that old. I used to think there was no need to replace them if they were still working till mine dropped the bottom out and ruined my furnace that was less than a year old. No warning at all. Now I'll replace mine every 12-15 years
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 5947
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ya know, now that I think about it, I have no idea who Heidi Klum is or what she looks like. So, for all I know, maybe she IS in my shower.....
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Denny Conn
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Username: Denny

Post Number: 5948
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jim, I know I should, but it's just not a priority at the moment. It seems to be in good shape (yeah, like ya can really tell by looking!). It's electric, so no worries about a furnace...hell, I don't even HAVE a furnace!
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Andy Hancock
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Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 159
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 143.183.121.1
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK I'll compare the taste of hot water to cold and see if there is a difference.

Then I'll contact Heidi Klum and tell her if she doesn't come over and take a shower with me my beer will be ruined. Think she'll buy it?
 

Richard Nye
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trust me Denny, Heidi's NOT in your shower.
 

Liquidbreaddiet
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Username: Liquidbreaddiet

Post Number: 497
Registered: 06-2005
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

she's in Seals shower - lucky bastard!!!!!
i've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding!!!